Magness at it again

apoptosis wrote:

smd wrote:

He's mostly arguing against something ("grind culture" he would call it) that few people do by choice.

I'm not so sure. There are people out there devouring David Goggins books and starting their day with ice-cold showers because... well, because it sucks. The physiological rationale for cold showers is basically nil, but there's still a belief that (as a bestseller in this vein a few years ago was titled) what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. The early morning "rise and grind" ethos is part of that culture, starting before the crack of dawn because it's tougher that way. There may not be huge numbers of people who actually do that by choice, but it's definitely an aspirational idea. Magness isn't saying you *shouldn't* work out in the morning. He's just saying it's not measurably better than any other time that might happen to be convenient for you. Is that thought worth an Instagram post? Opinions may differ, but getting upset about that Instagram post like the OP is 100% ridiculous.

truck sauce wrote:

apoptosis wrote:

I'm not so sure. There are people out there devouring David Goggins books and starting their day with ice-cold showers because... well, because it sucks. The physiological rationale for cold showers is basically nil, but there's still a belief that (as a bestseller in this vein a few years ago was titled) what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. The early morning "rise and grind" ethos is part of that culture, starting before the crack of dawn because it's tougher that way. There may not be huge numbers of people who actually do that by choice, but it's definitely an aspirational idea. Magness isn't saying you *shouldn't* work out in the morning. He's just saying it's not measurably better than any other time that might happen to be convenient for you. Is that thought worth an Instagram post? Opinions may differ, but getting upset about that Instagram post like the OP is 100% ridiculous.

Magness has pretty clearly been trying to throw shade at Goggins. He sees the crazy success that Goggins has selling books with his "Can't Hurt Me" and "Never Finished" mantras of grit and is jealous.

Magness is trying to appeal to the lazier people. It's a smart bet that there is a bigger market for a more moderate approach than the intensity coming from Goggins but Magness can't write to save his life so he will never gain a substantial following.

Magness also failed in his running career and coaching career so he has little credibility to use to sell books.

Holesandclick wrote:

Latest IG post is about how working out at 1pm Is equally beneficial as working out at 5am. No need to show some “mental toughness”

so many holes in this crap. First off- time doesn’t matter based on when you fall asleep as 8 hours is 8 hours. Second- if the temperature is 100 degrees at 1pm vs 60 degrees at 5am then let’s see your mad science math on that. 3rdly, some people feel better in the AM and some in the PM as he stated- but with his “research” he didn’t state that he let his teams when he wasn’t winning NCAA title that he split workouts based on the best time for each person to run because it would affect team chemistry and strain resources… no our leading scientists tells us a basic “working out at 5am is as good as 1pm” with no context.

Holesandclick wrote:

Latest IG post is about how working out at 1pm Is equally beneficial as working out at 5am. No need to show some “mental toughness”

so many holes in this crap. First off- time doesn’t matter based on when you fall asleep as 8 hours is 8 hours. Second- if the temperature is 100 degrees at 1pm vs 60 degrees at 5am then let’s see your mad science math on that. 3rdly, some people feel better in the AM and some in the PM as he stated- but with his “research” he didn’t state that he let his teams when he wasn’t winning NCAA title that he split workouts based on the best time for each person to run because it would affect team chemistry and strain resources… no our leading scientists tells us a basic “working out at 5am is as good as 1pm” with no context.

Perspective Pat wrote:

WTF Happened to This Joint? wrote:

The OP and his defenders are the small insecure people here. It’s a rather innocuous tweet about working out when you feel like it.

From what I understand, the resentment here is his history with the sport that doesn’t match with the self-promotion of himself as a coaching guru. His distance group at Houston performed pretty mediocre under his watch. In the early days of his podcast, you were under the impression that they were killing it. There are teams consistently making it to NCAA cross and his group was finishing at the bottom of his conference. Hell, Rojo had much better results than Magness and he didn’t charge money for a coaching education program.

I personally had to unfollow Magness on twitter as he would consistently argue with random gym bros for some reason. And then his account became a Hallmark calendar of motivational quotes with less emphasis on running. I’ve met the dude and he’s really nice but spends way too much time on social media.