Am I the only one that thinks Nuguse AR is as suspect as the women's marathon WR?

no one is clean

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Only americans can defend their best runners and not see the obvious doping

Do you really believe that Ritz had to (repeatedly!) ask "if it was legal"? As a pro, he should have known that it was not. At bare minimum, he should have been able to look into the rules by himself. To me, this weird statement of his complete.y ruined his credibility.

^ This! The absolute reality. Anyone running on the pro level and plenty of NCAA runners are NOT clean. This is a known fact in the inner circle. The substances and amounts taken are all over the place but be reassured that NO ONE is clean. Including Nuguse, all his teammates with Ritz the AlSal Student at the helm and most other teams around the world. Let's stop pretending. Anyone that's an insider on the pro level knows this..wake up

That's a definite. It's amazing how delusional Americans are - blaming Kenya, ruSSia, Jamaica etc , when most of their runners are doping as well. The fact that some didn't get caught doesn't mean they're clean.

Altitude isn't worth that much if at all. Lack of school and work is worth far more than any red blood cell advantage. Altitude is merely an illusion of advantage that the earth seems to provide but actually isn't what you think it does. Also, shoes would be the one to also provide far more advantage than altitude. I would ask to see the shoes Nuguse won in 2021 and in 2023. Were they improved with more spring etc?

Altitude is only an advantage if the race is held at altitude. So therefore those that wanna race well at altitude ought to train at altitude and not sea level. That's the only real 'advantage' of altitude training. The fact that East Africans who lived and trained at altitude all their lives subsequently 'seem' to run super well at sea level is all a relative illusion. Depends on your frame of reference when measuring them. Who would have known that if the same East Africans had relived everything about their lives and environment at sea level minus the altitude they could be running 'super super super well' instead and hence the transition from altitude to sea level a disadvantage rather than advantage to their performances?

HIlarious. Are you really that naive?

Let me.put it another way.

Nuguse, who doesn't have amazing form, somehow is totally clean and pure as snow, runs a similar untouchable mile time as a doped to the gills el g and ngeny (and well faster than another doping legend morceli).

Then you have guys like Steve cram 2 second back in the 3:46 range. And Daniel "eyes bulging from epo" komen.

Yeah..nuguse just happens to ahead of those guys by 2 seconds and run similar to el g and ngeny TOTALLY CLEAN.

If so, hes the greatest distance talent of all time.

I could be wrong but to me he feels like he is the least suspect of world class elites. It's about character. Just don't see it.

Lol I love it. Keep up the arguments of “he’s just too fast!” - it’s quite the compliment.

What about Mo Katir whom you believe strongly that he is a doper?

Yeah a rabbit is 1 second per lap so Rudisha is a 1:38 guy lol

Mo "emerges from covid lockdowns with an 8 second PR running in the rain" Katir

Yeah guys who smile a lot would def never dope, just ignore the fact that he's right behind Jakob.who has probably run 5x the miles Nuguse has in his life. But he smiles a lot! He would never dope!!1! There's gonna be a lot of cope going around when he gets busted

dang never though about this, why didnt I have a rabbit just pace all my races in college and high school, so many PRs I could have set

Yes Nuguse runs with terrible biomechanics compared to Ngeny, not to mention El G. Even Jakob has better mechanics than Nuguse. So this makes me suspicious of how Nuguse can propel his body through air drag if his mechanics already entails so much air drag per se! Bottomline is that Nuguse's biomechanical frequency patterns are 'off'. Not resonant enough like Mother Nature's frequency patterns, so needs something unlike Mother Nature such as drugs to propel him.

I gather from the comments 3 things about high-performance distance running:

1) Altitude is not a substantial factor in world class distance running. Even the fresher and less polluted air is 1000 times more effective for high-performance distance running than any red blood cell 'enhancement'. Not to mention less decibel noise frequencies from noise pollution, and of course slightly less anthropogenic RF and EMF in the mountains as well being mostly rural or rural-suburban....

2) Air drag can be an advantage to high-performance distance running especially on the oval track in bi-directional running if you have refined biomechanics like Ngeny and El G who were both known as the most graceful gazelles the world has ever seen running! I would go on to affirm that it is air drag/friction that ironically propels a runner forwards because it allows his body to push and pull on it to propel himself forward, but this must be done ELEGANTLY just like Ngeny and El G, not Nuguse. An example, without friction, your shoes can't grip the ground and pivot you forward while walking or running. Kinda the same thing with air resistance. Of course, there is a certain threshold limit beyond which air resistance becomes bad for you no matter how great your biomechanical technique. At the right (resonant frequency) for your body's stature and levers, air resistance is a boon to any WR venture, yes you heard that right from an RF engineer! It's all about the frequency, period!

3) Due to point 2 above, rabbited races don't really offer any more 'drag reduction' advantage on bi-directional track surfaces as much as wavelights do not! I'm not advocating for a hurricane wind but neither do I see from the point of view of RF engineering how a mere flimsy figure of a rabbit in front of another runner offers any drag reduction if at all.

He is also African. They have better genes. We just have to accept it. He had the best of both worlds. His body type is perfectly made for running. He is build like a Prius with extra battery pack while the other guys on ON team are more like souped up Corolla. His form is just so much more smooth and efficient. Little things matter at that level.