everyone who runs faster than Americans is cheating. They say Jacob , who is gradually improving every year is a doper but Fisher who improves from 27:30 to 26:30 in one year and then disappears isn't.
I rarely accuse athletes of doping, but this is just about the most ridiculous thing I have seen since Wang Junxia and Florence Griffith Joyner.
Sifan Hassan accomplished one of the most incredible triples in history only two years ago in Tokyo and holds 3 of the top-5 times in history, and Kipyegon just ran FIVE SECONDS faster than Hassan has ever run? FIVE SECONDS faster than anybody has ever run? Let's not forget she had a child only a couple years ago, too.
Look at the 1500 list. Kipyegon has 7 of the top-14 times in history. Who else is in the top-14? Qu Yunxia (Ma's Army), Jiang Bo (Ma's Army), Lang Yinglai (Ma's Army), Wang Junxia (Ma's Army), Tatyana Kazankina (80s Soviet Union), Sifan Hassan (arguably the greatest ever), and Genzebe Dibaba. And yet she DOMINATES them. Not even some of the most drugged up athletes in history can compete.
The crazy thing is that anyone here thinks she's clean. 250+ busts with far more to come in the coming years with better testing, but the likes of her and Kipchoge are clean? It's like accepting that doping was rife in the Soviet Bloc in the 80's but supposing Marita Koch and Kratchilova were clean.
The crazy thing is that anyone here thinks she's clean. 250+ busts with far more to come in the coming years with better testing, but the likes of her and Kipchoge are clean? It's like accepting that doping was rife in the Soviet Bloc in the 80's but supposing Marita Koch and Kratchilova were clean.
Don't hold your breath. The AIU's Brett Clothier says there are no longer gaps in testing Kenyan track athletes. The expected wave of busts he was talking about will come from the lower tiers of road running who've been recently added to the newly expanded testing pool. Given that Faith has been one of the most tested athletes in world since to 2012 and survived increased OOC tests in Kenya starting in 2016/2017, she'll have to do something drastically wrong (like start doping) to fail a test. I'm afraid you're stuck with this (and other) Kenyan superstars for the remainder of your bitter existence, Coevett.
Oh, the Lord is a huge fan.
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Now you guys get a taste of what the sprints went through with Dolt.
He was, however, in the totally criminal Diack era. A perfect setup. An Olympic year, as has been stated.
What about now? This seems to me to be a situation where an athlete/agent/coach decided, and got way out in front of administration—and now, it might be too late for admin to do anything about it, even if they wanted to.
Maybe next year she will waffle around like Dolt used to, maybe even lose a few races…and then really hit it for the gold.
Doubtful we will see a mini-me Flake equivalent, unless there is a younger kid in the same camp AND the admin is corrupt again.
It’s a total joke—BUT there are worthwhile justices to be found, like when ScR gets high on herself then gets taken down by someone like Alfred, or when SAFP opens in an easy 10.82
Kipyegon, whatever. Wait until someone who cares and has ability like Mu has a clear shot, and sub-4 will come. It’s all about how much money can be made off them.
Her 1500m time is also one of the doping fueled performances I have ever seen. Face it, but she is as dirty as any runner in history. Someone mentioned Wang Junxia and that was a good analogy. China's history at the junior worlds is fascinating. Whenever they decided to dope, such as 1992, they dominated the women's event. Then they drew back, then did it again a few years later. All it took was opening up the PED valve.
Do you also think Jakob is doping? If you think Kipyegon is, you must think Jakob is also doping based on the tables.
There are plenty on here throwing doubts Jakobs way, however Faith definitely has more circumstancial yellow flags. Jakob is currently 3s SLOWER than the mile record, Faith ran 5s FASTER. Her being from a country with known testing issues and dozens of athletes currently serving bans doesn't help the speculation. I think and hope that both are clean, mainly as they were both always the best from a young age.
Do you also think Jakob is doping? If you think Kipyegon is, you must think Jakob is also doping based on the tables.
There are plenty on here throwing doubts Jakobs way, however Faith definitely has more circumstancial yellow flags. Jakob is currently 3s SLOWER than the mile record, Faith ran 5s FASTER. Her being from a country with known testing issues and dozens of athletes currently serving bans doesn't help the speculation. I think and hope that both are clean, mainly as they were both always the best from a young age.
But Jakob is no Faith Kipyegon. Not even close by any measure possible.
their career stats aren't even comparable. JI wishes he was Faith Kipyegon. Excellence bar none!
yes. her, Kipchoge, Jakob, and McLaughlin will never test positive
McLaughlin? She isn't even within a second of the world 400 record. She doesn't need to be on drugs to miss the world record by more than a second.
You don't need to get WR to be an obvious doper. Plenty on the US team in fact most of them (and most countries). The biggest suspects are those with ridiculous progressions, and Faith, well, its beyond obvious.
She already ran the 1500 time, the mile was a soft record. Everyone needs to start doing some critical thinking.
Every record that is beaten is a "soft" record - to a doper. I come to this board just to see it confirmed how unbelievably gullible running fans are. There is nothing at the top of this sport that isn't the result of doping. Most know how not to be caught.
Too big to fail. We'll have to wait she gets tired of all the winning. Disgusting.
No one cares about these distance runners. None are too big to fail. If the fastest man in the world, CC, can get caught up in some trouble then so can she.
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