Lausanne Entries Out: Great 15- Jakob vs. Girma vs. Wightman; Cheptegei vs. Kiplimo; Keely vs. Moraa; Amusan vs. Camacho-Quinn

coachcommentsnicely wrote:

Wise Old Man wrote:

After Paris I’m not sure why Kiplimo and Kajelcha would be anything other than confident that they might win the 5000 m gold? That race was the model for beating Jakob and it didn’t seem that the pacing or lights mattered to them. These guys, and any others fit enough, need to share the work to be sure it’s a 12:40 race and then just try and race it out at the end. If they don’t, they will just be handing the gold to Jakob. If they do, one or more of them might have a chance to be the champ. If the race is one in which Jakob can take water breaks, forget it, they have no chance.

I am getting flashbacks to Mo Farah 2013. You guys were saying the same thing. "These Kenyans/Ethiopians need to share the work to beat Mo."

The fact is, they are not going to. Even if they did, they aren't dropping Jingy. He didn't race those guys until Worlds last year and he destroyed them. He will do it again.

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. Farah and Jakob very similar in that they were just masters of rhythm and tempo - I posted this a long time ago but the only way they can be beaten in these championship races is for others to actively try and disrupt that (pace changes, putting bodies around and in front of them) - old school Kenyan tactics from the late 80's and early 90's....

But then invariably come finals time - with no pacemakers, either human or LED powered, the fields just let a Farah or a Jakob totally dictate the rhythm and the tempo, let them move easily to the front with 800m to go and then it's over.

So to answer the original post as to why they wouldn't? Because it's easier said than done and end of the day for some reason everyone believes they are the strongest guy in the last 800m when there is only ever one. In the 10's it was Farah and now it's Jakob.

Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Looks pretty great, though some notable withdrawals:

800W: Keely vs. Moraa who is targeting sub-1:56; bunch of 1:58 SB athletes as well, deep field
110H: Izuyima (13.04) first DL I think, not much top-end talent but good Europeans like local star Jason Joseph
3KST W: Almayew (9:00 SB) looks like the future of the event, but Beatrice Chepkoech is rested and looks in her best form in years, Abebe looking to rebound, and Chemutai in the field as well
100W: Kambudji opens up vs. Luckenkemper and Neita
5000M: Kiplimo vs. Cheptegei vs. Haile Bekele vs. Barega vs. Aregawi; smart withdrawal from Kejelcha IMO, Katir also out of this meet, youngsters Kuma Girma (younger brother of Lamecha) and Boka Diriba (U20 XC bronze) bear watching in their first time in the big leagues
100H: Dream matchup with Camacho-Quinn, Amusan, Alayshia Johnson, Tia Jones and Nia Ali
200M: Battle of the second tier...Tebogo vs. Richards vs. Fahnbulleh vs Aaron Brown vs. Mena
400H W: Femke Bol vs. the sub-52 barrier
1500: Event of the meet with the 100m hurdles; Jakob, Wightman's return, Girma (1500 DL Debut), Reynold Cheruiyot DL debut (skip the 3:30s?), Kerr, Farken and Arese (DL Debuts), Heyward (welcome back)

Should be a great meet with the W100 and M200 only events kind of looking like duds.

As far as pacesetting goes... the 1500 has Akbache and Sowinski. My lone concern there is I'm presuming Sowinski is the second pacer and he is unlikely to be able to reach 1,000 like the pacer in Oslo did. The 5,000 has Callum Davies, but it's unclear who the second pacer will be.

Another awesome meet. Really in a golden patch of talent in the sport right now that is really worth watching every meet.

I wonder what the 1500m will be set at - I will keep my ear close to the ground and get that intel as soon as I can. Fingers crossed it's closer to 1.50.5 than 1.51.5

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Looks pretty great, though some notable withdrawals:

800W: Keely vs. Moraa who is targeting sub-1:56; bunch of 1:58 SB athletes as well, deep field
110H: Izuyima (13.04) first DL I think, not much top-end talent but good Europeans like local star Jason Joseph
3KST W: Almayew (9:00 SB) looks like the future of the event, but Beatrice Chepkoech is rested and looks in her best form in years, Abebe looking to rebound, and Chemutai in the field as well
100W: Kambudji opens up vs. Luckenkemper and Neita
5000M: Kiplimo vs. Cheptegei vs. Haile Bekele vs. Barega vs. Aregawi; smart withdrawal from Kejelcha IMO, Katir also out of this meet, youngsters Kuma Girma (younger brother of Lamecha) and Boka Diriba (U20 XC bronze) bear watching in their first time in the big leagues
100H: Dream matchup with Camacho-Quinn, Amusan, Alayshia Johnson, Tia Jones and Nia Ali
200M: Battle of the second tier...Tebogo vs. Richards vs. Fahnbulleh vs Aaron Brown vs. Mena
400H W: Femke Bol vs. the sub-52 barrier
1500: Event of the meet with the 100m hurdles; Jakob, Wightman's return, Girma (1500 DL Debut), Reynold Cheruiyot DL debut (skip the 3:30s?), Kerr, Farken and Arese (DL Debuts), Heyward (welcome back)

Should be a great meet with the W100 and M200 only events kind of looking like duds.

As far as pacesetting goes... the 1500 has Akbache and Sowinski. My lone concern there is I'm presuming Sowinski is the second pacer and he is unlikely to be able to reach 1,000 like the pacer in Oslo did. The 5,000 has Callum Davies, but it's unclear who the second pacer will be.