There is zero chance you ever saw young Shaq. Orders of magnitude more athletic than Jokic. Just no comparison at all.
Jokic will likely go down as the better player though.
I myself am curious to understand this one. Orders of magnitude more athletic than Jokic. OK, so please give me some actual statistics. So with this you mean to tell me Shaq can run a 100 in 11 flat while Jokic in 14 flat? A 400 in 59 while Jokic in 1 minute 35 seconds? Shaq long jumps 25 feet while Jokic 16? Shaq high jumps 7 feet while Jokic 5 feet? Please tell me what this "orders of magnitude" of athleticism is. Or do you not realize you still have your racist, media brainwashed glasses on?
The poster who was responded to stated that Shaq wasn't quick or explosive and that Wilt wasn't strong or quick. These physical attributes are considered athleticism. Shaq had a 32 inch vertical, Wilt ran the floor as fast as Lebron.
I myself am curious to understand this one. Orders of magnitude more athletic than Jokic. OK, so please give me some actual statistics. So with this you mean to tell me Shaq can run a 100 in 11 flat while Jokic in 14 flat? A 400 in 59 while Jokic in 1 minute 35 seconds? Shaq long jumps 25 feet while Jokic 16? Shaq high jumps 7 feet while Jokic 5 feet? Please tell me what this "orders of magnitude" of athleticism is. Or do you not realize you still have your racist, media brainwashed glasses on?
There is an element of racism. Jokic was drafted at the bottom of the 2nd round because of it. If you watched clips of him play preNBA, he was doing many of the things he is doing now. Many figured he was white so he is probably is not that good and he was drafted well below where he should have been.
The bias against him was predicated on the lack of success of just about every European who entered the NBA.
As previously mentioned Jokic is like Magic and Bird, two great players who weren't known to be "athletic" but were brilliant with excellent stamina and coordination.
LOL. I like how the only important skills you listed for defense are rebounding and positioning. Hysterical! Come on, Jokic is great, and he is a deserved champion and 2 time MVP. But don’t lie and say he has ALL the important skills when he obviously has some key defensive deficiencies that are particularly relevant for a center.
. If Jokic sits, then the Nuggets offense, defense, and rebounding suffers.
That's why he is such a valuable player. Maybe the Most valuable player...
Yes coach that is that textbook definition of bias and prejudice. We don't care what he did or how the video tapes of his play looked, he was European (and white) so we expected him not to be that good. "Those people never are"
There is an element of racism. Jokic was drafted at the bottom of the 2nd round because of it. If you watched clips of him play preNBA, he was doing many of the things he is doing now. Many figured he was white so he is probably is not that good and he was drafted well below where he should have been.
The bias against him was predicated on the lack of success of just about every European who entered the NBA.
Just be honest about it coach. Victor Wembanyama is European do you see the same bias against him?
There is zero chance you ever saw young Shaq. Orders of magnitude more athletic than Jokic. Just no comparison at all.
Jokic will likely go down as the better player though.
I myself am curious to understand this one. Orders of magnitude more athletic than Jokic. OK, so please give me some actual statistics. So with this you mean to tell me Shaq can run a 100 in 11 flat while Jokic in 14 flat? A 400 in 59 while Jokic in 1 minute 35 seconds? Shaq long jumps 25 feet while Jokic 16? Shaq high jumps 7 feet while Jokic 5 feet? Please tell me what this "orders of magnitude" of athleticism is. Or do you not realize you still have your racist, media brainwashed glasses on?
Maybe few teams wanted to take a chance on a big out of shape player. It's not as though the following players (in the years leading up to Jokic' year) weren't drafted higher and given a chance:
Milovan Rakivic
Nikola Pekoic
Amte Tomic
Goran Dragic
Nemanja Bjelica
Nikola Vucevic
Donat Mutiejunca
Nikola Mirotic
Bojan Bogdanovic
Milan MacManus
Tomas Satiransky
Alex Ken
Nemanja Nedovic
Marko Tedorovic
Bojan Dubljevic
Also, in the past teams would draft players and some stayed in Europe. Why waste a lottery or first round pick on a young kid who might not even show up and play.
Yes coach that is that textbook definition of bias and prejudice. We don't care what he did or how the video tapes of his play looked, he was European (and white) so we expected him not to be that good. "Those people never are"
You are right it was bias and it was wrong.
Bias against European players yes, prejudice, not necessarily.