I think people are exaggerating how soft this record is and how infrequently it is contested. Just look at the 25 times of all-time, it's a pretty good representation of the best distance runners of all time.
The 2 mile (10,560 feet or 3,218.688 metres) is a historic running distance. Like the mile run, it is still contested at some invitational meets due its historical chronology in the United States and United Kingdom. It has be...
On the 9th of June, Jakob will try to beat Komen 7:58 according to an article on FFA (french track and field federation) website, with the help of wavelight for the first time in Paris.
Discuss.
Good thread! But you misspelled Ingebrigtsen (“Ingebrigsten”). And you did the most common misspelling of this name on LRC (“Ingebritsen” being the second most common). Well, I don’t think this is a serious thing at all -it’s a difficult name both to write and pronounce… (Not at all difficult for us Norwegians, or Swedes, Danishes, or most people from Iceland and Finland, but for anybody else)… But to me it seems that misspellings of this name is so common that it can be hard to know what’s the correct version ( Jakob even once ran a Diamond league race with the misspelled “Ingebritsen” on his stomach! )
So therefore some “schooling”: The correct spelling is I-N-G-E-B-R-I-G-T-S-E-N. And this is how you divide the name into three meaningful pieces: INGE - BRIGT - SEN (The first piece “Inge” meaning / referring to “angel”, the second “brigt” meaning “bright, shiny, famous”, the last “sen” meaning “son of”: “Son of a bright famous angel”).
Further etymology (see Wikipedia): Ingebrigt is a man’s surname, not Norwegian in root, but German (“Engelbrecht” -shiny angel). The “sen” part in Ingebrigtsen would in old norse be “son” (Sweden and Iceland have kept this ending, so there it would be “Ingebrigtson” -Norwegian and Danish have “sen”, but as mentioned meaning son of). It’s the same in English/ American, f.ex Andersson / Andersen meaning son of Anders…
English is heavily influenced by Norwegian. Core words like “man”, “head”, “arm”, “face”, “eat”, “hair”, “like”, “you”, “are” and many, many more are “stolen” from Norwegian, but given a french pronunciation -us Norwegians understand therefore English quite well, but our pronunciation sucks (The Swedes are even worse!)…
Some help (spelling / pronunciation of Ingebrigtsen): Inge (The “I” of course pronounced as “i” in the word “in”.) brigt (as mentioned this piece means bright -one have to remember to skip the “h” in the Norwegian written version, but in the pronunciation this “h” will do no harm -the problem is that you have to use the old English pronunciation -without the french vowel sound- the “i” in brig(h)t has to be pronounced likewise as in “bring”. And then you just add “sen” (not “sten” -in Norwegian that means stone).
There are two main reasons for the misspellings of Ingebrigtsen, and here Norwegians are most to blame, because our pronunciation sounds often like “Ingebritsen” or “Ingebrigsten”… But I don’t think Jakob is offended -we all need some good laughs, and I’m not sure Jakob can spell Cheruiyout without hesitating….
As a Norwegian I keep on laughing then foreigners do their best to pronounce Jakob in Norwegian. Well, most do this very well, so what’s hilarious is that all this effort is unnecessary: Norwegians are cool with English pronunciation of their surnames (especially with a common name like Jakob / Jacob); some years ago Henrik, Filip and Gjert always used the English version in English interviews; now they too are forced to say Jaaaakob…!
In September Jakob is being married to his girlfriend Elisabeth Asserson. Fun fact is: Jakob is going to claim her last name as a part of his own: Jakob Asserson Ingebrigtsen. -I don’t know if Asser got any etymological meaning in Norwegian (other than the obvious -Asserson means son of Asser), but one can of course associate a lot in English….! (But in Swedish it means “joyful, blessed, responsible)…
At last (so my post want be too short) we’ve got Jakob / Jacob. -I don’t think nordic or English version is that important, but the Jacob can sometimes confuse with Jacob Kiplimo and Jacob Krop….
Ok -I have tried to explain as good as I can. -I’m quite good in Norwegian (my native language) but English is sort of not even my second language, and then I was young English wasn’t taught as a communication tool in Norwegian schools…. (But we old people read English quite well).
True. I realized my mistake a few minutes after posting it... Too late!
Does anybody here believe these "epo era" records are clean?
Of course Jakob can't break 7:58. Just like nobody will touch 3:26 or 3:43 ever again. Hicham was a science project and Komen was equally doped outta his eyeballs. But to be fair, they were also the most talented athletes of their era. Like lance armstrong, doped to the dorsals, but the best of a drugged field.
Jakob closed his Impossible Games 2K (4:50.01) in 54.1 - 1:52.4 - 3:51. Stricter, even pacing through 2400m during a 2 mile sets him up for success and the possibility of striking Komen from the record book.
I think people are exaggerating how soft this record is and how infrequently it is contested. Just look at the 25 times of all-time, it's a pretty good representation of the best distance runners of all time.
Clearly, he has a shot at the 2mile mark. Its reachable for Jakob. Not sure how much money I'd wager, but he's that good. The 7:20.6 3k is probably a bridge too far. One thing is certain; there is nobody out there now quite like Jakob Ingebrigsten. Still 22yrs 8mos old.
On the 9th of June, Jakob will try to beat Komen 7:58 according to an article on FFA (french track and field federation) website, with the help of wavelight for the first time in Paris.
Discuss.
If everything goes right, Jakob easily gets it. I predict he follows the light for most of the race, and then kicks in the last 500m for a 7:56/57. Then he celebrates and tell everyone how easy it felt.
As crazy as it seems, I think this record is overrated. Even the 3000m record isn’t as strong as a lot of people here think. Jakob probably gets it in the next few years. Will be harder and closer than the 2 miles record though.
On the 9th of June, Jakob will try to beat Komen 7:58 according to an article on FFA (french track and field federation) website, with the help of wavelight for the first time in Paris.
Discuss.
If everything goes right, Jakob easily gets it. I predict he follows the light for most of the race, and then kicks in the last 500m for a 7:56/57. Then he celebrates and tell everyone how easy it felt.
As crazy as it seems, I think this record is overrated. Even the 3000m record isn’t as strong as a lot of people here think. Jakob probably gets it in the next few years. Will be harder and closer than the 2 miles record though.
Lol at all your points. "oVERATED" records attempted by the greatest runners in history and unsurpassed by all.
A good pacer could get to 1 mile, a great pacer to 2k. We'll see who they get.
That's my thought too. Gonna be tough to get the record obviously but if he can get a full pacer all the way to 2018 meters and has to only do at most 3 laps by himself, he's got a shot. First rabbit goes 1200-1400M, 2nd one gets it to 2018M in 4:58-4:59, it's on!
If everything goes right, Jakob easily gets it. I predict he follows the light for most of the race, and then kicks in the last 500m for a 7:56/57. Then he celebrates and tell everyone how easy it felt.
As crazy as it seems, I think this record is overrated. Even the 3000m record isn’t as strong as a lot of people here think. Jakob probably gets it in the next few years. Will be harder and closer than the 2 miles record though.
Lol at all your points. "oVERATED" records attempted by the greatest runners in history and unsurpassed by all.
Both the 1500m and the 5000m records are definitely stronger than the 3000m record (and for sure also stronger than the 2 Miles mark).
There is no "two mile world record." It's not soft (because Komen) but it's a dead distance.
Haters gonna cope, copers gonna hate, but here's how it is: top elite starts shooting for these off-records, they are over the shark. Shows they know it's all they can get.
Lots of women could go after the 2-mile WB. Even setting aside Ma's Army, it's 40 seconds slower than Hassan's 8:18. Nobody bothers, it's beneath them.
What I like with Jakob is that he is confident but realistic. He knows what he is able of what he cannot achieve. He is not going ot say "I go for 7:19" because he knows he can't do it atm and probably never.
So it's smarter to try at a distance where he has a shot, even if there is less prestige. Maybe later, if he keeps improving and with more confidence, he can try 3000 or 1500 WRs but everybody knows they are crazy tough to beat.
You would prefer that he does Arewagi style, going for Komen 3000 WR with 0% chance and fading in 7:26?
No. He should go for the only records he has an outside shot at, i.e. 1500 and mile. He knows as well as you or I do that he could never get close enough to 3000 to smell a Komen fart.
He probably would fail to claim either 1500 or mile, but it's his best and only shot, and he's not taking it as time . So we know he believes he can't.
As I said, haters gonna cope. Down vote = cope dope. Just telling it like it is folks.