The real question with Elon Musk is, if he's such a big champion of neato cutting edge tech, why isn't he pushing tech to either
A) make himself less big and fat, or B) cure the heart disease that will likely develop.
Long ago I asked this board's doctors to hurry up and find a way to clean plaque out of arteries. A genius billionaire like Elon could make it happen. Tell him your ideas.
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Tech has made people bigger and fatter, like whales, or at least porpoises
He could as easily say it's morally wrong for someone to be making $125,000 a year when a server makes $3 an hour technically. Or for someone to make millions a year with the freedom to jetset wherever while demanding workers come into a cube 9-5 for $90,000 a year. Screw him.
Some people who went from WFH to a mandatory hybrid schedule know they're going to get nothing done but meetings when they go to the office. They were more productive at home without the chitchat and the 20 minutes it takes to stand in line for coffee.
I work perfectly well from home. I can finish breakfast, get a coffee and join a meeting in a couple minutes vs 90 minutes on the metro, and 90 more minutes home at the end of the day. Three hours of commute would take a lot out of me. There's really no aspect of my work that would be improved by being in the room with some MFs.
Just like Musk. He built his own residential suit at work, with full bar, mood lighting, porno stash, etc. He wakes up, gets breakfast and coffee, walks out the door, walks 10 feet and he's at work.
The real reason he lives at work is that it makes it far easier to entice a woman from work, or a visitor, to go to his room to "relax". His scores include Amber Heard.
I work perfectly well from home. I can finish breakfast, get a coffee and join a meeting in a couple minutes vs 90 minutes on the metro, and 90 more minutes home at the end of the day. Three hours of commute would take a lot out of me. There's really no aspect of my work that would be improved by being in the room with some MFs.
Just like Musk. He built his own residential suit at work, with full bar, mood lighting, porno stash, etc. He wakes up, gets breakfast and coffee, walks out the door, walks 10 feet and he's at work.
If you are trying to work long hours living where you work (either work from home, next to the office, or end the office) is extremely beneficial.
Forgetting Musk for a minute, hybrid is probably going to stick for at least the short term. Eventually corporate culture will change, or not, based on success. It’s possible corporations will sacrifice productivity for profits. Compensation may also decline for home workers, who could potentially move elsewhere in the world to improve their living standard. Who knows? Anything is possible.
He’s right. My productivity is crap at home because of family distractions. Before I had a family it was a different story and I was definitely more productive from home than an office.
I work perfectly well from home. I can finish breakfast, get a coffee and join a meeting in a couple minutes vs 90 minutes on the metro, and 90 more minutes home at the end of the day. Three hours of commute would take a lot out of me. There's really no aspect of my work that would be improved by being in the room with some MFs.
Keep in mind, if your job can be 100% remote, there is no need to pay for a high priced U.S. based worker. Can remote in much less expensive people from anywhere (or 2-3 of them for the same price)
I work perfectly well from home. I can finish breakfast, get a coffee and join a meeting in a couple minutes vs 90 minutes on the metro, and 90 more minutes home at the end of the day. Three hours of commute would take a lot out of me. There's really no aspect of my work that would be improved by being in the room with some MFs.
Keep in mind, if your job can be 100% remote, there is no need to pay for a high priced U.S. based worker. Can remote in much less expensive people from anywhere (or 2-3 of them for the same price)
its not 2008 again. we tried that experiment and it turned out that foreign tech workers are unreliable liars. so we started trying to import them so we can lord over them in offices.
I work perfectly well from home. I can finish breakfast, get a coffee and join a meeting in a couple minutes vs 90 minutes on the metro, and 90 more minutes home at the end of the day. Three hours of commute would take a lot out of me. There's really no aspect of my work that would be improved by being in the room with some MFs.
Keep in mind, if your job can be 100% remote, there is no need to pay for a high priced U.S. based worker. Can remote in much less expensive people from anywhere (or 2-3 of them for the same price)
My job requires US citizenship and a background check, not to mention expertise that is specialized.
Is it moral to spend 1 hour each way driving into an office to do a job that you can do remotely?
Is it moral when in office employees spend more time gossiping at the water cooler than doing productive work?
I don't see this as a morality issue, but a convenience one.
I'm definitely struggling to see the morality in putting employees at risk by making them get into a vehicle to get to the office, when the odds of them piling into another vehicle or getting t-boned at 60+ mph are actually pretty high.
During the pandemic, I was way more productive working from home. No commute and being able to go to my refrigerator for lunch and snacks added at least an hour to my workday. Having all my calls go to voice mail and having most contacts within and outside the firm be email or first via voicemail made a huge difference in that I was always able to go into the file or contacting a client in order to figure out what was going on before calling people back. But having a place where I could work without interruption and without any noise or distractions made a huge difference in my ability to take on tasks and get stuff done.
When we all got back into the office, it was like losing 2 hours a day compared to being at home. And it was abundantly clear that the only reason we have to schlep ourselves to very expensive office space far from our homes and families is because the partners like having their egos stroked by holding court every day (metaphorically) with everyone.
During the pandemic, I was way more productive working from home. No commute and being able to go to my refrigerator for lunch and snacks added at least an hour to my workday. Having all my calls go to voice mail and having most contacts within and outside the firm be email or first via voicemail made a huge difference in that I was always able to go into the file or contacting a client in order to figure out what was going on before calling people back. But having a place where I could work without interruption and without any noise or distractions made a huge difference in my ability to take on tasks and get stuff done.
When we all got back into the office, it was like losing 2 hours a day compared to being at home. And it was abundantly clear that the only reason we have to schlep ourselves to very expensive office space far from our homes and families is because the partners like having their egos stroked by holding court every day (metaphorically) with everyone.
agreed and I am also finding that for better or worse, online team meetings are routine and abundant since the shift to remote (at home) work. This is both good and bad, but the good is that we are much more connected as a result. I've been hearing how a lot of the big players are starting to limit this proliferation of routine online meetings.
Obviously there are many jobs that can't be done remotely while others can be. There are some jobs that can be done in an air conditioned office and others that have to be done outside no matter how boiling or freezing the weather is. If you extend Musk's line of reasoning you could conclude that it's immoral to have a comfortable indoor job when others don't have one.
I don't see a moral dimension here. But if I want to create one I'll argue that in a time where it's believed that burning hydrocarbons is a threat to our continued existence it's morally wrong to force people who could work from home to commute to a workplace, most likely by driving, and burn fuel unnecessarily.
Honestly surprised nobody has mentioned this. Maybe because a ton of liberals are working min wage service jobs and secretly agree with Musk despite outwardly professing indignation at climate change.
I'll add another one that's never mentioned. You could argue in a time of rapid inflation, when oil is a huge contributor to the cost of everything, it is morally wrong to unnecessarily place additional demand on that commodity by forcing people who could work from home to commute.
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