You condemn antidoping efforts as unfair in one moment (Houlihan, Getzmann, Salazar etc) and then you praise it in another - which is when you think it makes Kenya look good.
Is there no topic where you are not confused? The only common thread is avoiding punishing innocent athletes without due process.
To ban a whole country requires reasons. There were reasons for Russia (ARAF and RUSADA misconduct), but these reasons do not apply to Kenya (AK and ADAK). It's not just what I think, but it's what Coe told us that in the same Rome press conference.
Hahaha, what? Neither Houlihan nor Salazar were innocent, and both got due process all the way (and Salazar was banned as coach, not as athlete).
P.S. Getzmann got due process all the way also. So there is no common thread there at all.
Have it your way. I was being generous, looking for any link, but if there is no common thread there at all, then there was no need for Armstronglivs to bring up Houlihan, Getzmann, and Salazar in a thread about Kenya.
P.S. Getzmann got due process all the way also. So there is no common thread there at all.
Have it your way. I was being generous, looking for any link, but if there is no common thread there at all, then there was no need for Armstronglivs to bring up Houlihan, Getzmann, and Salazar in a thread about Kenya.
Have it your way. I was being generous, looking for any link, but if there is no common thread there at all, then there was no need for Armstronglivs to bring up Houlihan, Getzmann, and Salazar in a thread about Kenya.
The common thread is your hypocrisy.
You may also have a point that some of the Kenyan sanctions are unfair, but that doesn't give further reason to ban the whole nation. Two wrongs don't make a right. I would be consistently against both to the extent it involves sanctioning innocent athletes. The stated goal of anti-doping is to protect innocent athletes.
That's not true. Coe told me that when compared to Russia the truth about Kenya was quite the "reverse", and that wide beliefs about a full-scale ban were "misquided".
You might want to believe, and want to tell me the opposite, but you will always fail. We saw in another thread that you cannot find real historical information for yourself, insisting instead to be spoon-fed wide beliefs.
That's not true. Coe told me that when compared to Russia the truth about Kenya was quite the "reverse", and that wide beliefs about a full-scale ban were "misquided".
You might want to believe, and want to tell me the opposite, but you will always fail. We saw in another thread that you cannot find real historical information for yourself, insisting instead to be spoon-fed wide beliefs.
Scott Peck tells us that manipulating how words are used, so they mean something different from how they are generally understood, is the hallmark of a liar. You are easily one of his subjects.
Coe did not use words like "reverse" in such a way as to suggest that Kenya's doping problem was nowhere near as serious as in Russia, or that they were effectively opposites; in fact he was effectively likening them to each other when the essential and only point of difference between them he identified was Kenya's efforts to confront the problem - which Russia failed to do. It is only that difference that led to him saying predictions of a Kenyan ban were "misguided".
You are truly the worst distorter of facts and manipulator of words that frequents these boards. Every sentence you write is an assault on truth. That is a liar. You have made it your vocation.
Scott Peck tells us that manipulating how words are used, so they mean something different from how they are generally understood, is the hallmark of a liar. You are easily one of his subjects.
Coe did not use words like "reverse" in such a way as to suggest that Kenya's doping problem was nowhere near as serious as in Russia, or that they were effectively opposites; in fact he was effectively likening them to each other when the essential and only point of difference between them he identified was Kenya's efforts to confront the problem - which Russia failed to do. It is only that difference that led to him saying predictions of a Kenyan ban were "misguided".
You are truly the worst distorter of facts and manipulator of words that frequents these boards. Every sentence you write is an assault on truth. That is a liar. You have made it your vocation.
Well thanks to Scott Peck, I won't even read your misguided attempts to manipulate what Coe said, nor what I said. Here are the unmanipulated words from the AP, and from Reuters, reporting what Coe said about why the whole country of Kenya was not banned (which is after all, the misguided subject of this thread):
"World Athletics President Seb Coe said reports about a possible full-scale ban for the country were misguided."
"During a visit to Kenya, Coe contrasted the approach of the country's sports authorities with that in Russia, which he said involved state-supervised cover-ups."
""There is no suggestion that that is the case in Kenya; in fact, quite the reverse," Coe said during a news conference alongside Kenya's sports minister."
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Scott Peck tells us that manipulating how words are used, so they mean something different from how they are generally understood, is the hallmark of a liar. You are easily one of his subjects.
Coe did not use words like "reverse" in such a way as to suggest that Kenya's doping problem was nowhere near as serious as in Russia, or that they were effectively opposites; in fact he was effectively likening them to each other when the essential and only point of difference between them he identified was Kenya's efforts to confront the problem - which Russia failed to do. It is only that difference that led to him saying predictions of a Kenyan ban were "misguided".
You are truly the worst distorter of facts and manipulator of words that frequents these boards. Every sentence you write is an assault on truth. That is a liar. You have made it your vocation.
Well thanks to Scott Peck, I won't even read your misguided attempts to manipulate what Coe said, nor what I said. Here are the unmanipulated words from the AP, and from Reuters, reporting what Coe said about why the whole country of Kenya was not banned (which is after all, the misguided subject of this thread):
"World Athletics President Seb Coe said reports about a possible full-scale ban for the country were misguided."
"During a visit to Kenya, Coe contrasted the approach of the country's sports authorities with that in Russia, which he said involved state-supervised cover-ups."
""There is no suggestion that that is the case in Kenya; in fact, quite the reverse," Coe said during a news conference alongside Kenya's sports minister."
He's only talking about coverups. He does not suggest anywhere that the scale of doping in Kenya is different from Russia.
Have it your way. I was being generous, looking for any link, but if there is no common thread there at all, then there was no need for Armstronglivs to bring up Houlihan, Getzmann, and Salazar in a thread about Kenya.
Another example of ADAK doing its job and the anti-doping system working as designed.
A new headline for the masses, but not quite "another one". This looks like one of the athletes I already mentioned 1 week ago, who was provisionally suspended back on May 11, 2022, and is just now being sanctioned:
"In (2022), ADAK suspended these athletes: Samuel Lomoi, Agatha Jeruto, Esther Chesang Kakuri, Everlyne Syombua, Lydia Simiyu, Mathew Sawe, Alice Aprot, Vincent Kiplangat, Michael Saruni, Stellah Barsosio, Kumari Taki, Gloria Kite, Georgina Rono, Priscilla Tabunda"
Not surprising after the disappearing act after Worlds: https://twitter.com/aiu_athletics/status/1644325915898392576?s=46&t=6H8Vg0I0fELX8xfQDxxFnARLC Update: here is our article on the matter:https://www.letsrun.com/news/2...
Another example of ADAK doing its job and the anti-doping system working as designed.
A new headline for the masses, but not quite "another one". This looks like one of the athletes I already mentioned 1 week ago, who was provisionally suspended back on May 11, 2022, and is just now being sanctioned:
"In (2022), ADAK suspended these athletes: Samuel Lomoi, Agatha Jeruto, Esther Chesang Kakuri, Everlyne Syombua, Lydia Simiyu, Mathew Sawe, Alice Aprot, Vincent Kiplangat, Michael Saruni, Stellah Barsosio, Kumari Taki, Gloria Kite, Georgina Rono, Priscilla Tabunda"
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of Kenyan dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of Kenyan doping.
Another example of ADAK doing its job and the anti-doping system working as designed.
A new headline for the masses, but not quite "another one". This looks like one of the athletes I already mentioned 1 week ago, who was provisionally suspended back on May 11, 2022, and is just now being sanctioned:
"In (2022), ADAK suspended these athletes: Samuel Lomoi, Agatha Jeruto, Esther Chesang Kakuri, Everlyne Syombua, Lydia Simiyu, Mathew Sawe, Alice Aprot, Vincent Kiplangat, Michael Saruni, Stellah Barsosio, Kumari Taki, Gloria Kite, Georgina Rono, Priscilla Tabunda"
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of Kenyan dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of Kenyan doping.
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of New Zealand dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of New Zealand doping.
Since it is known that the actual numbers of dopers is far larger than those caught the true number of Kenyan dopers will be many more than those busted. Even the latter list is a disgrace to the sport. There is nothing more nauseating here than those who seek to minimize or deny the extent of Kenyan doping.
Actually, there is something more nauseating here. Your presence.
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