A lot of people are conveniently glossing over the fact the chiefs had a defensive TD overturned. And another blown call the next play. Get a life yall
It was the correct call. Not only did the jersey-grab impede the receiver, it allowed the defender to shift his momentum on that lousy field. Mahomes hadn't thrown the ball yet; absent that grab, the receiver would have had clear separation to the point where Mahomes would get him the ball 95 times out of 100. Result would have been a first-down and the same ending we ended up with.
It wasn't a great call, but it was holding. I grew up in Philly, I'm a life-long Eagles fan, but I can't let that cloud my judgement.
The point is, the Eagles defense played a horrendous second half and they did not deserve to win. They should have never been in the position to let that call decide the game. Mahomes played a good second half and the Eagles defense was putrid.
Seriously, talk about Turf Gate. Idk man just an overall fishy vibe. Which is sad considering both teams played a fantastic game.
It created some uncertainty for what would have normally been an easy field goal at the end, particularly since the kicker had missed a 42-yarder earlier.
Seriously, how to you have the biggest game of the year on turf like that? They had the guy that grew it bragging about how great it was on the pregame. It cost... IIRC... $800,000. Why can't they get this right?
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So to the rules of the game it's holding. But, and there is always a but - here is the issue from my perspective.
First and most importantly - that flag is thrown on plays like this (which let's be honest happen on almost every damn pass play of every game played in the NFL) maybe 50% of the time at best. It's the definition of the often used "ticky-tack" penalty.
Yesterday the officiating crew did a pretty good job I felt of keeping these calls to a bare minimum and this is the key point. The players 100% adjust throughout the game based on how the officials call the game. We all do at all levels of sports that are officiated. If you have played a full game where after a quarter you know they are being super strict on stuff like that then you know it's something you just can't do - that wasn't the case yesterday.
I just don't understand how, after officiating the game for 58 1/2 minutes one way, you decide to get ever so slightly stricter on that one play. That's simply poor officiating and the worst part is that prior to the play even happening, those officials know the implication of throwing a flag and what it means - basically game over and a season decided because of it.
You look at the AFC title game where that dude from Cinci makes that bone-headed play on Mahomes at the end. That's an example of something you can't let go. That hold? Come on now.
So to wrap it up, you have a ticky tack penalty that is really a coin flip call at best. A call you haven't been making all game that you know in that situation has HUGE implications. I'm sorry but the default there has to be no flag unless it's something so obviously egregious which that wasn't. You clearly can't mug the receiver on that play but that was the contact that was crucial factor in deciding an entire season of the National Football League? Nope.
While those are all good points, in real time the official can't think it through like that. He is watching the play and sees the defender grab the jersey. So what do you think he should do? Does he think to himself "Well, this is the SB and we have not been calling it that strictly and I don't want a questionable call to mar the outcome of the game"
No, he sees the grab and throws the flag like he is supposed to do when a penalty is committed without thinking of the ramifications. Other officials had the chance to make a case and let the infraction go but they agreed with the call. The Eagles had many opportunities to put the game away but did not. KC drove the length of the field on running plays prior to the play to get within range. Why is no one blaming the Eagles defense for not stopping a immobile QB and the KC running game.
So to the rules of the game it's holding. But, and there is always a but - here is the issue from my perspective.
First and most importantly - that flag is thrown on plays like this (which let's be honest happen on almost every damn pass play of every game played in the NFL) maybe 50% of the time at best. It's the definition of the often used "ticky-tack" penalty.
Yesterday the officiating crew did a pretty good job I felt of keeping these calls to a bare minimum and this is the key point. The players 100% adjust throughout the game based on how the officials call the game. We all do at all levels of sports that are officiated. If you have played a full game where after a quarter you know they are being super strict on stuff like that then you know it's something you just can't do - that wasn't the case yesterday.
I just don't understand how, after officiating the game for 58 1/2 minutes one way, you decide to get ever so slightly stricter on that one play. That's simply poor officiating and the worst part is that prior to the play even happening, those officials know the implication of throwing a flag and what it means - basically game over and a season decided because of it.
You look at the AFC title game where that dude from Cinci makes that bone-headed play on Mahomes at the end. That's an example of something you can't let go. That hold? Come on now.
So to wrap it up, you have a ticky tack penalty that is really a coin flip call at best. A call you haven't been making all game that you know in that situation has HUGE implications. I'm sorry but the default there has to be no flag unless it's something so obviously egregious which that wasn't. You clearly can't mug the receiver on that play but that was the contact that was crucial factor in deciding an entire season of the National Football League? Nope.
While those are all good points, in real time the official can't think it through like that. He is watching the play and sees the defender grab the jersey. So what do you think he should do? Does he think to himself "Well, this is the SB and we have not been calling it that strictly and I don't want a questionable call to mar the outcome of the game"
No, he sees the grab and throws the flag like he is supposed to do when a penalty is committed without thinking of the ramifications. Other officials had the chance to make a case and let the infraction go but they agreed with the call. The Eagles had many opportunities to put the game away but did not. KC drove the length of the field on running plays prior to the play to get within range. Why is no one blaming the Eagles defense for not stopping a immobile QB and the KC running game.
In watching the condensed replay (link below, now has over 10million views), right before that play was a HUGE run down the middle of the field by the gimpy Mahomes! WOW!
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BTW, at time stamp 4:00min, Chiefs pass on 3rd down, and JJ Schuster makes a big deal about being held when no penalty was called. The camera focuses on him, and the Philly coach after the no-call. HOWEVER, if you back it up and watch it again, you’ll see three wideouts at the bottom of the screen. Watch carefully the wideout streaking down the field; before exiting the view frame, you can see a Philly defender grabbing onto his jersey.
BTW, at time stamp 4:00min, Chiefs pass on 3rd down, and JJ Schuster makes a big deal about being held when no penalty was called. The camera focuses on him, and the Philly coach after the no-call. HOWEVER, if you back it up and watch it again, you’ll see three wideouts at the bottom of the screen. Watch carefully the wideout streaking down the field; before exiting the view frame, you can see a Philly defender grabbing onto his jersey.
It is not the best image quality, but the defender appears to grab him. I suppose, due to inconclusive image, one could argue the defender is just reaching out and puts his arm on him. So review the tape to see if you think the Jersey is being tugged.
This is why ball sports will always be a letdown. It is more is a contest of who convinces the referees to give them calls than a true athletic contest.
track and field is the only pure sport, everything else is just a game.
That's the exception that proves the rule. It was so unusual, we made a big deal about it. Football and basketball have dozens of those moments in every game.
Funny how all of the armchair quarterbacks are complaining about the call yet those involved in the play, including the defender James Bradberry, agree that the correct call was made.
Eagles cornerback James Bradberry told reporters following Philadelphia's loss in Super Bowl LVII on Sunday that he held Chiefs wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster on a crucial third down in the fourth quarter.
I don't really have a dog in this fight as far as teams but I want to point out again that the holding by the chiefs at the end of the afc championship was atrocious. the offensive line had two blatant holds that allowed pm to escape the pocket
I'm not saying kc wasn't the better team on sunday but in inconsistency of calls makes the game much less enjoyable to watch.
BTW, at time stamp 4:00min, Chiefs pass on 3rd down, and JJ Schuster makes a big deal about being held when no penalty was called. The camera focuses on him, and the Philly coach after the no-call. HOWEVER, if you back it up and watch it again, you’ll see three wideouts at the bottom of the screen. Watch carefully the wideout streaking down the field; before exiting the view frame, you can see a Philly defender grabbing onto his jersey.
It is not the best image quality, but the defender appears to grab him. I suppose, due to inconclusive image, one could argue the defender is just reaching out and puts his arm on him. So review the tape to see if you think the Jersey is being tugged.
There is no debate on the issue of whether Bradberry grabbed the guy's jersey. The debate has morphed into whether the call should have been made based on a DB grabbing a guys jersey coming out of a break and using that grab to slingshot forward and catch up to the receiver.
It is not the best image quality, but the defender appears to grab him. I suppose, due to inconclusive image, one could argue the defender is just reaching out and puts his arm on him. So review the tape to see if you think the Jersey is being tugged.
There is no debate on the issue of whether Bradberry grabbed the guy's jersey. The debate has morphed into whether the call should have been made based on a DB grabbing a guys jersey coming out of a break and using that grab to slingshot forward and catch up to the receiver.
Except if you read my post, I said on that no-call on Bradbury play in the 2nd Quarter, Marquez Valdes-Scantling was also held by either Avonte Maddox (or Josh Jobe).
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