So after finally listening to the entire interview, they were not sick they just tanked.
Yes they went out too fast, like CBA always does
Going out fast at NXN did work out for Loudoun Valley in 2017 though. I heard someone from that group say in an interview that the first 400 is like a 400 race (and that guy might have had a 400 PR) to make sure they got in the right position
Was anyone else concerned by their comment about possibly under fueling in the days leading up to the race? Was the food at nxn really that bad? And even if it was, wouldn’t you think they could order food to the hotel? I’m sure their parents were around and could have picked something up. Just seems like a strange excuse given they were in Portland and had a ton of food options.
Was anyone else concerned by their comment about possibly under fueling in the days leading up to the race? Was the food at nxn really that bad? And even if it was, wouldn’t you think they could order food to the hotel? I’m sure their parents were around and could have picked something up. Just seems like a strange excuse given they were in Portland and had a ton of food options.
Under fueling? Give me a break. It was a 5k, not a marathon.
Besides, check out the video they posted about day one at NXN. There was plenty of food.
Was anyone else concerned by their comment about possibly under fueling in the days leading up to the race? Was the food at nxn really that bad? And even if it was, wouldn’t you think they could order food to the hotel? I’m sure their parents were around and could have picked something up. Just seems like a strange excuse given they were in Portland and had a ton of food options.
I had trouble understanding what that meant, too. Originally I suspected they went heavily lactic. But bonking in a 5k due to lack of fueling? I don’t think I’ve ever heard of that. And it looks like they are feeding fine in their two recent videos. Nonetheless, if someone has experience with under fueling for a 5k, I’d like to hear it. Maybe it’s one of the reasons I was never that fast.
It sounds to me like they were too nervous to eat or keep their food down, and probably slept poorly for days. Aaron clearly was unaffected, but he had zero pressure and probably slept perfectly.
It sounds to me like they were too nervous to eat or keep their food down, and probably slept poorly for days. Aaron clearly was unaffected, but he had zero pressure and probably slept perfectly.
So what was the ‘beef’ all about, or was there even one in the first place? There were bad rumors started; even one that Aaron was being coached from an online source instead of the team. But we see in the L&L video they fist-bump when they pick him up for the flight up there, and Aaron is running with the team up there in the days pre-race.
So what was the ‘beef’ all about, or was there even one in the first place?
Something bad happened because one of the twins unfollowed Aaron on Instagram, and neither twin congratulated him.
Several people have reported that Aaron posted Lex and Leo's cell phone numbers online and they got a ton of phone calls and texts, which really pissed the twins off.
In any case they all must have eventually made up because both twins are following Aaron now.
Was anyone else concerned by their comment about possibly under fueling in the days leading up to the race? Was the food at nxn really that bad? And even if it was, wouldn’t you think they could order food to the hotel? I’m sure their parents were around and could have picked something up. Just seems like a strange excuse given they were in Portland and had a ton of food options.
Yeah, I think that was a poorly thought out excuse. All the kids that raced that day ate the same food. The competition at NXN was at a much higher level than they had experienced all season and I think they were unprepared for it. In their pervious races, L and L were able to drop the competition by going out in 4:30 and that just didn't work in the NXN field. They gravely underestimated the competition. Times don't mean a lot in cross country and I think they came in too confident because their times were faster than the other top guys who ran their regular seasons on hard courses and in bad weather.
Was anyone else concerned by their comment about possibly under fueling in the days leading up to the race? Was the food at nxn really that bad? And even if it was, wouldn’t you think they could order food to the hotel? I’m sure their parents were around and could have picked something up. Just seems like a strange excuse given they were in Portland and had a ton of food options.
They are teenagers and just looking for a reason that they did not run as well as they felt they should have have. I think they don't know their bodies yet and don't know what burnout or a bad day feels like, because they have not felt that before. Fueling is probably what made sense to them. Obviously that's not what makes sense to us from the outside.
I'm also not too sold on the fueling rationale. Their effort at Clovis the week before, running Mt. Sac 3 straight weeks before that, running out front in wind/poor race plan/execution are more likely explainers.
I do still think they are the best in the country despite the one performance. Lex's 13:43 on the track earlier this year with Gorze in the same race running 17 seconds behind. Gorze ran another track 5k a month or so ago in 14:11 so I don't think much has changed there. Sahlman won the race the twins underperformed in and that had never happened. Many here are ready to write them off after one bad race. Logically this doesn't make sense to me.
Sahlman will forever be a better high school cross country runner than the twins.
In the same sense that Michael Fouts will forever be a better high school XC runner than German Fernandez (eye roll)
Exactly. That's the whole point of championship races, even if you California apologists can never grasp it when your favorites underperform. Nobody outside Cali cares about your stupid state course record.
I’m not writing them off; I’m more wondering why they both had bad races given they’re historically great racers. I listened to the podcast thinking they’d share something we didn’t already know but it sounds like they don’t really know what happened. I was surprised they went with the under-fueling excuse considering that’s something within their control (assuming they don’t have eating disorders). They could’ve just said they were under the weather but they didn’t. I’m excited to see them redeem themselves in under 20 nationals xc
I’m not writing them off; I’m more wondering why they both had bad races given they’re historically great racers. I listened to the podcast thinking they’d share something we didn’t already know but it sounds like they don’t really know what happened.
I was surprised they went with the under-fueling excuse considering that’s something within their control (assuming they don’t have eating disorders).
They could’ve just said they were under the weather but they didn’t.
I was told by someone at NP that Lex and Leo felt a little sick right after the state meet the week before NXN, but that they had fully recovered by NXN. And Lex and Leo certainly looked healthy in the videos that they are posting on their YouTube channel about the two days before NXN.
I don't think that Lex and Leo would have went out that fast at NXN if they thought they were sick at the time of the race. But it seems that there might have been a residual effect of the earlier slight sickness that Lex and Leo didn't realize was still there.
Yes, they went out too fast into a strong wind, but even still Lex shouldn't have died that bad if he was 100% healthy.