Posts were deleted that were about his wife. You can discuss he had a heart attack , that it might have been caused by the vaccine or whatever or that he might have been murdered but his wife’s job or beliefs aren’t relevant.
How noble of you. You deleted or locked several Newbury Park beef threads because they were based on unfounded rumors yet this thread is predominantly on the unfounded conspiracy theory that the dude was murdered by the government of Qatar and you personaly gave that discussion your blessing. Your so called integrity is a joke.
let's not compare a gossip thread about teenagers to a very real and severe situation here, involving the death of a journalist.
It is way too coincidental that Grant Wahl passed away from natural causes at the age of 48 while he was being highly critical of Qatar. The post that Rojo posted about the guy walking into his house is incredibly sus. Anything could have happened, but I will never rule out the possibility that this was foul play. It seems way too strange.
It's not some baseless conspiracy theory. Finding out what truly happened to him is important. If we don't at least consider this, then we could be letting someone get away with killing him.
People die everyday. But if it happens in Qatar, this has to be a crime by these evil middle east people, right?
Let's be reasonable here. First of all, we can call out the human rights abuses in Qatar without being racist.
First of all, how many migrant workers were killed for this tourney? Grant Wahl called that out. He also made a few enemies and got death threats. To say that it's racist to cast suspicion on the mysterious sudden death of a journalist is ridiculous. This has nothing to do with their race or ethnicity, but rather the abusive practices of their country, and that Grant was brave enough to call it out.
Posts were deleted that were about his wife. You can discuss he had a heart attack , that it might have been caused by the vaccine or whatever or that he might have been murdered but his wife’s job or beliefs aren’t relevant.
I still think it is most likely he had a heart attack of natural causes but at 1 am last night I remembered he had written this at World Cup:
Fair enough. It does seem plausible that there might be some foul play going on here.
However, the point about his wife is that she’s an infectious disease doc, a member of Biden’s Covid advisory transition team, and a mRNA vax “truther.” And Grant heavily promoted this “truth” via his tweets. So, if he did pass of sub-clinical myocarditis as a result of cumulative jabs, I would surely hope some real investigative journalism would seek out the truth. That’s what it’s supposed to do, no matter how emotionally and politically inconvenient.
I agree w another poster that the cognitive dissonance in that mRNA truther community would be incredibly difficult to overcome, and they likely wouldn’t ever be able to walk it back now.
Whatever the case, it’s incredibly sad, and, if it was “a hit” related to his LBGTQ promotion or criticism of the Qatari government, it just serves as a reminder about how good we have it over here and how the incessant whining needs to stop.
I understand the brother's immediate grief but otherwise, accusations of murder are absurd, though it tracks the greatly inflated sense of self-importance many of Grant's readers seem to have had
Type A obsessive neglects his health except for rona, which he was at statistical zero "risk" of-- not to mention how many shots and boosters he took to mitigate that "risk"...
Dude should have been in bed, eating chicken soup, not taking rona test after rona test in a country he deplored (right or wrong) anyway.
RIP soccer scribe, hope things are better for in an extra time.
Another journalist (a Qatari) died suddenly today. They need to identify what killed Wahl and this other individual. There is a possibility this was a result of a biologic / infectious agent (MERS, Anthrax, Flu / RSV combo, etc.). A one off could be easily dismissed, but two sudden deaths is a big coincidence. Given the high profile of the World Cup and the volume of people travelling there from all parts of the globe, it is an ideal place for a terror attack and should be diligently investigated.
People die everyday. But if it happens in Qatar, this has to be a crime by these evil middle east people, right?
Let's be reasonable here. First of all, we can call out the human rights abuses in Qatar without being racist.
First of all, how many migrant workers were killed for this tourney? Grant Wahl called that out. He also made a few enemies and got death threats. To say that it's racist to cast suspicion on the mysterious sudden death of a journalist is ridiculous. This has nothing to do with their race or ethnicity, but rather the abusive practices of their country, and that Grant was brave enough to call it out.
The racism is not to call out abuses in Qatar but to buy the western media exaggeration and to do it only for Qatar as if they were ethically worse than other countries.
I'm sure you think they are, which is a racist point of view not based on fact. Where were you when Brasil killed homeless people in their towns "to clean" before world cup in 2014. What did you say when Russia was the host in 2018? And what about one of the next hosts, USA, a country where a mass shooting happens every month, a country that has bombed all middle east to steal oil, a country that used slavery to build its nation, is that ethically better than Qatar?
On this topic, people aren't even intererested in what happened, they just want to feed this anti qatar propaganda. Western countries use middle east one as scapegoats so that they don't see their own dirt.
Tell me, how many migrants were killed for this tourney? But before, I remind you that "to die" is not a synonymous for "being killed".
Let's be reasonable here. First of all, we can call out the human rights abuses in Qatar without being racist.
First of all, how many migrant workers were killed for this tourney? Grant Wahl called that out. He also made a few enemies and got death threats. To say that it's racist to cast suspicion on the mysterious sudden death of a journalist is ridiculous. This has nothing to do with their race or ethnicity, but rather the abusive practices of their country, and that Grant was brave enough to call it out.
The racism is not to call out abuses in Qatar but to buy the western media exaggeration and to do it only for Qatar as if they were ethically worse than other countries.
I'm sure you think they are, which is a racist point of view not based on fact. Where were you when Brasil killed homeless people in their towns "to clean" before world cup in 2014. What did you say when Russia was the host in 2018? And what about one of the next hosts, USA, a country where a mass shooting happens every month, a country that has bombed all middle east to steal oil, a country that used slavery to build its nation, is that ethically better than Qatar?
On this topic, people aren't even intererested in what happened, they just want to feed this anti qatar propaganda. Western countries use middle east one as scapegoats so that they don't see their own dirt.
Tell me, how many migrants were killed for this tourney? But before, I remind you that "to die" is not a synonymous for "being killed".
Are you denying that this Cup had exponentially more deaths of workers getting the preparations for Qatar than any other Cup in other nations?
Are you denying that this Cup had exponentially more deaths of workers getting the preparations for Qatar than any other Cup in other nations?
I'm denying that Qatar is worse ethically than others hosts. About death of workers, i'm not sure. Please give me a link to a serious investigation that gives precise number and classify by cause : infectious disease, heat, overworking, murder, gorvernment action etc.
And comparison with previous hosts.
First of all I imagine that those workers were not taken by force to Qatar to work there. So if their condition was so bad, why did they went there to work?
There is a proverb in my country that says "numbers are sensitive creatures that can admit anything under torture"
Posts were deleted that were about his wife. You can discuss he had a heart attack , that it might have been caused by the vaccine or whatever or that he might have been murdered but his wife’s job or beliefs aren’t relevant.
I still think it is most likely he had a heart attack of natural causes but at 1 am last night I remembered he had written this at World Cup:
Fair enough. It does seem plausible that there might be some foul play going on here.
However, the point about his wife is that she’s an infectious disease doc, a member of Biden’s Covid advisory transition team, and a mRNA vax “truther.” And Grant heavily promoted this “truth” via his tweets. So, if he did pass of sub-clinical myocarditis as a result of cumulative jabs, I would surely hope some real investigative journalism would seek out the truth. That’s what it’s supposed to do, no matter how emotionally and politically inconvenient.
I agree w another poster that the cognitive dissonance in that mRNA truther community would be incredibly difficult to overcome, and they likely wouldn’t ever be able to walk it back now.
Whatever the case, it’s incredibly sad, and, if it was “a hit” related to his LBGTQ promotion or criticism of the Qatari government, it just serves as a reminder about how good we have it over here and how the incessant whining needs to stop.
If it was a hit on his LGBTQ Promotion it serves as a reminder to not go to Foreign Countries to Instigate/provoke that Country by putting down their way of life for Thousands of years by forcing this LGBTQ garbage on them, If It is so good why not let it happen organically/naturally and not by forcing on them, they are forcing it on Children in the USA starting in Kindergarten by taking kids on Field Trips to see Drag Queen shows and even telling/encouraging kids at that young age to get Sex Change Operations, There are Hospitals that Mutilate Children by removing Breast from Girls and The Penis of Boys, and now people like me are Villainized by being against this, If it was a hit by The Qatari Government remember they were Provoked and they see what is happening in the USA and Western Countries and they are putting out the fire before it grows as it has in the West and it is NOT happening in the West Organically/naturally but by Brainwashing Children at VERY Young ages, Oh yeah California just passed SB-145 Which allows a 21 Year Old to have sex with an 11 year old (Google it, Look it up) And Guess what the Man who Initiated it a Politician in San Francisco is a LGBTQ Activist, But the Media says the LGBTQ's are the Good guys, this World is upside down
Fair enough. It does seem plausible that there might be some foul play going on here.
However, the point about his wife is that she’s an infectious disease doc, a member of Biden’s Covid advisory transition team, and a mRNA vax “truther.” And Grant heavily promoted this “truth” via his tweets. So, if he did pass of sub-clinical myocarditis as a result of cumulative jabs, I would surely hope some real investigative journalism would seek out the truth. That’s what it’s supposed to do, no matter how emotionally and politically inconvenient.
I agree w another poster that the cognitive dissonance in that mRNA truther community would be incredibly difficult to overcome, and they likely wouldn’t ever be able to walk it back now.
Whatever the case, it’s incredibly sad, and, if it was “a hit” related to his LBGTQ promotion or criticism of the Qatari government, it just serves as a reminder about how good we have it over here and how the incessant whining needs to stop.
If it was a hit on his LGBTQ Promotion it serves as a reminder to not go to Foreign Countries to Instigate/provoke that Country by putting down their way of life for Thousands of years by forcing this LGBTQ garbage on them, If It is so good why not let it happen organically/naturally and not by forcing on them, they are forcing it on Children in the USA starting in Kindergarten by taking kids on Field Trips to see Drag Queen shows and even telling/encouraging kids at that young age to get Sex Change Operations, There are Hospitals that Mutilate Children by removing Breast from Girls and The Penis of Boys, and now people like me are Villainized by being against this, If it was a hit by The Qatari Government remember they were Provoked and they see what is happening in the USA and Western Countries and they are putting out the fire before it grows as it has in the West and it is NOT happening in the West Organically/naturally but by Brainwashing Children at VERY Young ages, Oh yeah California just passed SB-145 Which allows a 21 Year Old to have sex with an 11 year old (Google it, Look it up) And Guess what the Man who Initiated it a Politician in San Francisco is a LGBTQ Activist, But the Media says the LGBTQ's are the Good guys, this World is upside down
The number of 6500 death of immigrants during the period of preparation for world cup is first of all an estimation from the guardian, not a precise number. Then it's an estimation of all deaths of immigrant population in qatar during the period, related or not with world cup. Indian government even acknowledged than given the importance of the indian community in Qatar, the number seemed normal. You know, immigrants in qatar are not all workers for the world cup. And in qatar like everywhere else in the world, people die everyday from many causes.
Then all media and ethic lesson givers brainlessly repeated this number to prove how dirty is the Qatar, wouh.
Ce chiffre, révélé dans une enquête du "Guardian" en février 2021, est souvent mis en avant pour dénoncer les conditions de travail des ouvriers dans le pays. Si l'émirat le conteste, il reste une donnée importante, avec tout...
Fair enough. It does seem plausible that there might be some foul play going on here.
However, the point about his wife is that she’s an infectious disease doc, a member of Biden’s Covid advisory transition team, and a mRNA vax “truther.” And Grant heavily promoted this “truth” via his tweets. So, if he did pass of sub-clinical myocarditis as a result of cumulative jabs, I would surely hope some real investigative journalism would seek out the truth. That’s what it’s supposed to do, no matter how emotionally and politically inconvenient.
I agree w another poster that the cognitive dissonance in that mRNA truther community would be incredibly difficult to overcome, and they likely wouldn’t ever be able to walk it back now.
Whatever the case, it’s incredibly sad, and, if it was “a hit” related to his LBGTQ promotion or criticism of the Qatari government, it just serves as a reminder about how good we have it over here and how the incessant whining needs to stop.
If it was a hit on his LGBTQ Promotion it serves as a reminder to not go to Foreign Countries to Instigate/provoke that Country by putting down their way of life for Thousands of years by forcing this LGBTQ garbage on them, If It is so good why not let it happen organically/naturally and not by forcing on them, they are forcing it on Children in the USA starting in Kindergarten by taking kids on Field Trips to see Drag Queen shows and even telling/encouraging kids at that young age to get Sex Change Operations, There are Hospitals that Mutilate Children by removing Breast from Girls and The Penis of Boys, and now people like me are Villainized by being against this, If it was a hit by The Qatari Government remember they were Provoked and they see what is happening in the USA and Western Countries and they are putting out the fire before it grows as it has in the West and it is NOT happening in the West Organically/naturally but by Brainwashing Children at VERY Young ages, Oh yeah California just passed SB-145 Which allows a 21 Year Old to have sex with an 11 year old (Google it, Look it up) And Guess what the Man who Initiated it a Politician in San Francisco is a LGBTQ Activist, But the Media says the LGBTQ's are the Good guys, this World is upside down
thank you for telling the truth. But you won't be rewarded for it in this foolish era.
Nothing unethical about bribing your way into hosts, exploiting migrant workers with no value of human life, and discriminatory disdain for rainbow shirts.
Nothing unethical about bribing your way into hosts, exploiting migrant workers with no value of human life, and discriminatory disdain for rainbow shirts.
Did you email and call your U.S. Congressperson demanding D.o.J. send men & women to Qatar in order to launch a murder investigation? If not, you are simply an internet hot head who doesn't really believe in anything.
Nothing unethical about bribing your way into hosts, exploiting migrant workers with no value of human life, and discriminatory disdain for rainbow shirts.
Did you email and call your U.S. Congressperson demanding D.o.J. send men & women to Qatar in order to launch a murder investigation? If not, you are simply an internet hot head who doesn't really believe in anything.
What? Where did I claim that I believe Grant was murdered?
Talking sh¡t about any country in the Middle East is best done far away from the Middle East and without any plans to visit the Middle East. This was probably a case of fvckandfounditis and a clear marker for everyone to see.
Nothing unethical about bribing your way into hosts, exploiting migrant workers with no value of human life, and discriminatory disdain for rainbow shirts.
you failed to understand my point. I didn't say Qatar wasn't doing anything unethical. It's very likely they used bribery. But that is very common eveywhere on the planet. Why does it bother you so much now?
Exploiting migrant workers? They were not paid? Why did they came there to work then? Again this phenomemon that you call exploitation is internationnal division of work that happens everywhere in the world. Who is making your clothes? How is that different? I admit that I think it's unethical also, but that how the world works nowadays... "No value of human life" is a judgment based on nothing but your hate.
Disdain for rainbow shirt is a sound and natural reaction to a degenerated trend. That shows Qatar kept higher ethical values than some western countries regarding sexuality and gender, according to laws of nature. You are the unethical one in this topic.
Did you email and call your U.S. Congressperson demanding D.o.J. send men & women to Qatar in order to launch a murder investigation? If not, you are simply an internet hot head who doesn't really believe in anything.
What? Where did I claim that I believe Grant was murdered?
In general, your post was anti-Qatari. You didn't pour cold water on murder theory. All posts on this thread post W Johnson stating the rules: no negatives regarding Wahl's wife but murder theories may continue.
Any post on this thread today either support W Johnson's ridiculous murder theory or posters communicate against said theory.
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