Jerry going to make him what he should be a distance runner. He'll be marathoning in no-time. All seriousness i think he will be the next top American marathoner
Gotta love workout warriors. They run WR workouts then lose every race. I guess whatever makes them happy is fine.
Those first handful of miles were tempo-->threshold pace. The next set was threshold-->slightly slower than 10k pace. For a guy that was 6th in NCAA XC, that's hardly an outlandish workout. It might've gotten tough at the end, but it's not close to workout warrior territory. Now if he ran both sets in 4:25, I'd have a different take. Remember when Ritz ran like a 45:xx ten miler in practice? He was a 12:56 guy.
Exactly. BTW the "XX" you wrote for seconds on the Ritz 10 mile workout was supposedly "00". Yes, he supposedly ran 10 x 4:30 miles with 0 rest in between 5 mile segments [ pre- super shoes]. A tad harder than Coop's workout. Lol.
I would think that most 13:00 -13:10 guys run similar workouts to 2x5x1600 at 4:50 (tempo) and 4:35 (LT). It's a lot of volume. Great workout. But it doesn't suggest he's going to set an AR any time soon.
Those first handful of miles were tempo-->threshold pace. The next set was threshold-->slightly slower than 10k pace. For a guy that was 6th in NCAA XC, that's hardly an outlandish workout. It might've gotten tough at the end, but it's not close to workout warrior territory. Now if he ran both sets in 4:25, I'd have a different take. Remember when Ritz ran like a 45:xx ten miler in practice? He was a 12:56 guy.
Exactly. BTW the "XX" you wrote for seconds on the Ritz 10 mile workout was supposedly "00". Yes, he supposedly ran 10 x 4:30 miles with 0 rest in between 5 mile segments [ pre- super shoes]. A tad harder than Coop's workout. Lol.
No wonder Ritz was always injured. Thats 60:20 HM pace for almost 80% of the race distance in practice. Thats a race effort, not a tempo
Salazar had Ritz absolutely on a roll for about half a year. Wonder what gray areas they were bumping up against? His apartment was prob set to Everest altitude 1/2 the day.
In addition, Ritz ran his last 15k, according to the article, in 41:45, 16 seconds slower than the world record at the time, and the previous week ran 9x1600m on 400m jog rest at 4:21!
Jerry going to make him what he should be a distance runner. He'll be marathoning in no-time. All seriousness i think he will be the next top American marathoner
I hope you are wrong. A young man who sprinted his final 300m of USA's 1500m final in about 38 flat, you would make a talent like him a Marathoner?
I believe Teare was training much harder in college than Fisher, especially with that Covid Virtual Year. Super shoes. Etc.
Fisher has admitted he was underdeveloped and was often frustrated with the coaching approach in college. He was only running 70ish miles a week and believed som of his competitors (probably McDonald) were running 90+.
However, looked how it’s worked out for him. I also find it interesting that Fisher is of very few people who didn’t use a 5th/6th year. He could’ve as he was enrolled in grad school and only had 1 NCAA title. I guess the money from Nike was good enough to start out.
Interested in where you heard the thing about him being frustrated with college training.
He was actually really low balled by Nike to join Bowerman but went there instead of UA or others offering 4-5x more.
Guessing this ended up working out for him monetarily in the long run, considering the year he just had and the typical Nike contract heavy on incentives. Would have been a shame to see him go down the Ed Ches road, with no real training structure around him.
I heard it from Grant Fisher himself on his podcast.
Pretty sure he also mentions it on the podcast he did with letsrun after breaking the 10k ar
I assume going with Bowerman was heavily influenced from Vanessa and Sean talking it up as they were already on the team. And even if the contract is low, being on the Bowerman team is more of an incentive than just a Nike contract. Getting to go to training camps, access to facilities/doctors, etc.