I am sorry to disappoint you but Wayment seems to have run 1 (one) 5,000 (outdoor) since that race, and it was a bad result (15:50). She focused on the steeplechase. You are just so desperate to slight Tuohy.....
What a pathetic dodge. She won the indoor 5000 championship.
And you said nothing about all the rest.
so what is your point? Tuohy's best 3000 at 8:54.2, in a race that she did not have to lead, but was 2 weeks after XC season on the BU track is obviously far inferior to Valby's best of 8:53.9 in a race she lead, on a 290 m track, in late January 2 months + after XC. OK, I see your point. It is clear as day!
In indoor I generally see the BU track and the oversized tracks as reasonably equivalent.
Anyway not sure why the focus is on 3000m times on different tracks in different races at different times in the season when we have direct, head-to-head races to go by.
In indoor I generally see the BU track and the oversized tracks as reasonably equivalent.
Anyway not sure why the focus is on 3000m times on different tracks in different races at different times in the season when we have direct, head-to-head races to go by.
and I guess Wayment has gone downhill since the 15:15 as she only won the indoor title in 15:30 (Yes I forgot about that race and missed it when I looked at WA).
And... Ceili McCabe ran faster then both Tuohy and Valby, beating Tuohy in that early December race. 8:52.52. She broke the Cabadian u23 record.
that race was after a long cross country season, ceilie mccabe was fully healthy on that race, katelyn just forced her coach to let her run then they shut down her training for 2 months, katelyn also broke the american u20 record in that race...still mccabe showed her impressive finishing kick, and katelyn still havent developed one at that race, come 2-3 months later after that race, she did, and then outkicked mccabe at nationals
and mccabe is a steeplechaser, 3000m is prob her favorite
In indoor I generally see the BU track and the oversized tracks as reasonably equivalent.
Anyway not sure why the focus is on 3000m times on different tracks in different races at different times in the season when we have direct, head-to-head races to go by.
and I guess Wayment has gone downhill since the 15:15 as she only won the indoor title in 15:30 (Yes I forgot about that race and missed it when I looked at WA).
it seems to be that at outdoors, wayment focus was on the 3S, because she was never able to run a fast 5000m again even though she entered very fast pro races
There is just no way a healthy Parker Valby will get beaten by Tuohy this year and in the upcoming years. Valby is just on another level and looks to dominate NCAA in the next few years if she stays healthy. A new star is born!
Remember she ran 18:58 6k for her first race!
Same words were said to Jenna Hutchins, Brynn Brown, Sydney Masciarelli, Taylor Ewert, Marlee Starliper and Zofia Dudek yet none of them developed better than Tuohy.
Unless Valby wins over Tuohy by 30 seconds as you said, and runs faster than Tuohy's 4:06 and 15:14 then start talking like this.
Apparently you are. You rarely seem to watch races because you are too cheap. Some of us are at the races or watch every race. I ran the OK State course last week for the 4th time and I have run the Zimmer course at least a dozen times. I watched Nuttycombe online this year in my hotel in Stillwater. The Zimmer course is a very fair course. There are some minor rolling hills. It is nowhere near as hilly as Stillwater or Griak. It isn't as hilly as Terre Haute. It is one of the flattest courses to host the national meet over the past 25 years. Anyone familiar with the sport can confirm that.
Apparently you are. You rarely seem to watch races because you are too cheap. Some of us are at the races or watch every race. I ran the OK State course last week for the 4th time and I have run the Zimmer course at least a dozen times. I watched Nuttycombe online this year in my hotel in Stillwater. The Zimmer course is a very fair course. There are some minor rolling hills. It is nowhere near as hilly as Stillwater or Griak. It isn't as hilly as Terre Haute. It is one of the flattest courses to host the national meet over the past 25 years. Anyone familiar with the sport can confirm that.
sure.....Louisville is pretty darn flat and hosted a number of NCAA championships. LG has a hill or 2, but I think less than Zimmer. OSU has even more and tougher hills, but a better surface.
Having been to both locations multiple times and have my own opinion, I'm curious how the veteran runners/coaches/observers out there compare these courses.The wind at Tom Sawyer will not be near the factor it was/is at Laver...
Trying what? Just giving my honest feedback. Your tone is mirroring Semihaze. No jeed to be rude. Calling tje Zimmer course hilly is not accurate. Stillwater is much hillier. Terre Haute is hillier. Griak is much hillier. If Zimmer is hilly, what are those? Even though Louisville may not be as hilly, it doesn't run like it. Zimmer has nice footing while Louisville has rocks and roots and runs like a cow pasture. It is just way more grueling. I love the Zimmer course. The new Missouri course and the Iowa course remind me of it.
If you want flat with good footing, run Notre Dame. It circles a flat 9 hole golf course. The only issue there is the early narrowing but that doesn't impact the top 20 runners.
