I might be reading into it too much but she kept saying after the core 3 we will have to win a different way. Wonder if there’s some injuries or problems in the roster.
I actually didn’t catch that part. Then again, I zoned out a bit during some it.
One thing Bush said was that she and Seymour were not happy with their result at Nutty (or implied that). She mentioned that she ran near the front and then dropped off, and had to work her way back up. She realized that this likely was not the best tactic.
So while she will likely run near the front at ACC's, at Nationals I would expect she finds a better placement for herself for the first 4 k so she can attack better at the end.
The TIE at Nutty was likely a really good reminder for the team that they will need every placement spot possible.
I noticed that too. I got the impression she WILL be doing better and didn’t perform up to her abilities. I was glad to hear that self-reflection. She certainly did not say: ”I just didn’t have it in me that day”, or “my fitness is lacking”. It was more like something like: ”I just noticed that I didn’t do as well as I know I can”. (Or something like that. I usually take notes during interviews, but today didn’t have the time).
She had also mentioned that the win at Nuttycombe wasn’t necessarily important to the team. It was cool they got it, but it wasn’t really important. (Did anyone else catch that?).
She had also mentioned that the win at Nuttycombe wasn’t necessarily important to the team. It was cool they got it, but it wasn’t really important. (Did anyone else catch that?).
I didn't catch that, but just noticed that she said they were still in hard training.
I thought the comment that Seymour likes to run to the front was interesting. Good for Seymour, putting herself out there.
The fixation with course records is odd to me. This is not hs and races are run to win against the competition. It may or more likely may not result in a course record which as others have pointed out is not terribly meaningful as the courses are not run in championship races that often and conditions can vary. Very different from hs courses which see Invitationals or championships like FL every year. Valby may be an exception to this for the time being.
I didn't catch that, but just noticed that she said they were still in hard training.
I thought the comment that Seymour likes to run to the front was interesting. Good for Seymour, putting herself out there.
I caught that too. I believe I had mentioned that on the Nuttycombe thread as well because I was very curious where their fitness was (without tapering), and what times they’d run not being race sharp yet. Some of the times we’re seeing at this point of the season have been fantastic!
Agreed re: Seymour as well. I LIKE that she wants to be out upfront and go for it! If I understood Bush correctly, Bush felt like she was falling into that a bit too much and finding herself at the front of the pack, when she knows personally that she should instead be holding back, if even just a bit, to have better personal performances overall. (I felt that was very introspective of her to say).
The fixation with course records is odd to me. This is not hs and races are run to win against the competition. It may or more likely may not result in a course record which as others have pointed out is not terribly meaningful as the courses are not run in championship races that often and conditions can vary. Very different from hs courses which see Invitationals or championships like FL every year. Valby may be an exception to this for the time being.
True about course records.
With that being said, it is nice to hear and/or say “the fastest that’s ever run”… etc.
several times after the long winded statement/question she seemed unsure what she was asked (and I do not blame her). The team knows several runners had "bad races" (as I recall, her words) at Nuttycombe. She said she did not finish well there. Said they were still in heavy training (at least then). No indication of Starliper's - or anyone's- health or anything like that. Hene's view on handling hills if you are fit, you can handle them if you are mentally ready.
Thanks! I'm driving up to Charlottesville (from the Raleigh area) for the ACC Championships. I really hope Starliper is running.
Unfortunately NC State fans should prepare for 2nd place at Stillwater. I believe NM will upset the Wolfpack! Starliper is dealing with an injury and that is why she was not at Nuttycomb, and Will not be racing ACC’s as well. They cannot win without Starliper at Stillwater. Hopefully she can return for Nationals, if not they are toast!
If Sam and Seymour think they faded at Nuttycomb, it is going to be worst at Stillwater. Henes’ philosophy of not working on hills and just working on mindset and fitness is bad coaching. I believe that will work for Tuohy and Chmiel, but not for the rest of the team. With an injured Starliper, not working on hill running, and obviously no altitude training……I’m sorry but I don’t see the Pack winning. As much as I want them to win, if I had to make a money bet, it would be on NM at this point.
• everyone doesnt do the exact same workout, theres other things she does that the other top 7 girls dont, same goes for everyone, they still all practice together regularly but then theres also an individual workout plan (which supports what coach henes and katelyn has said in interviews, trainings are also individualize, everyone has different ways to get to the same goal)
• in her words they are preparing for the hills rather mentally than physically by having a strong mindset, also i think its becuase their home trails and location doesnt really have big hills
• she has accepted her development pace
• she, katelyn and kelsey are the team's leaders and added that shes not that vocal and that doing her part is her way of leading(by example)
• sydney seymour likes to run up front
• she likes to run behind her teammates, she said if she sees sydney, shes still good in the race and just has to catch up
umm hopefully she changes that and runs behind katelyn and kelsey instead, i swear sam bush is so much stronger this year, she just has not fully believed in herself this season yet
if katelyn, kelsey places top 10 w/ sam placing top 15 and sydney top 20-30 and marlee at 40s
• everyone doesnt do the exact same workout, theres other things she does that the other top 7 girls dont, same goes for everyone, they still all practice together regularly but then theres also an individual workout plan (which supports what coach henes and katelyn has said in interviews, trainings are also individualize, everyone has different ways to get to the same goal)
• in her words they are preparing for the hills rather mentally than physically by having a strong mindset, also i think its becuase their home trails and location doesnt really have big hills
• she has accepted her development pace
• she, katelyn and kelsey are the team's leaders and added that shes not that vocal and that doing her part is her way of leading(by example)
• sydney seymour likes to run up front
• she likes to run behind her teammates, she said if she sees sydney, shes still good in the race and just has to catch up
umm hopefully she changes that and runs behind katelyn and kelsey instead, i swear sam bush is so much stronger this year, she just has not fully believed in herself this season yet
if katelyn, kelsey places top 10 w/ sam placing top 15 and sydney top 20-30 and marlee at 40s
nc state can still pull the win
Once again here is the problem
1. Probably no Starliper (which is why Sam said they will have to try and win a different way)
2. That course in Stillwater will cause major problems for Sam and Seymour. It is not a good course for their strengths. Seymour is a front runner and we saw two years ago what happened to Whitney Orton on that course and Seymour is not even in Orton’s league (she thought she hit a wall in Madison, just wait). Sam races from behind and uses her speed at the end. Problem with that is that Nationals is not on the track in Florida like last year, and the speed will be run out of her at Stillwater.
3. NM as a team is stronger than NCS because of altitude training and better coaching. NCS is fast and talented, but with no Starliper NM is the favorite in my eyes. I think Tuohy and Chmiel could go top three and they still loose because NCS 5th will be back in 70-80’s.
Thanks! I'm driving up to Charlottesville (from the Raleigh area) for the ACC Championships. I really hope Starliper is running.
Unfortunately NC State fans should prepare for 2nd place at Stillwater. I believe NM will upset the Wolfpack! Starliper is dealing with an injury and that is why she was not at Nuttycomb, and Will not be racing ACC’s as well. They cannot win without Starliper at Stillwater. Hopefully she can return for Nationals, if not they are toast!
If Sam and Seymour think they faded at Nuttycomb, it is going to be worst at Stillwater. Henes’ philosophy of not working on hills and just working on mindset and fitness is bad coaching. I believe that will work for Tuohy and Chmiel, but not for the rest of the team. With an injured Starliper, not working on hill running, and obviously no altitude training……I’m sorry but I don’t see the Pack winning. As much as I want them to win, if I had to make a money bet, it would be on NM at this point.
cool story bro. And how exactly do you know for sure that Starliper will not be running at ACCs?
Unfortunately NC State fans should prepare for 2nd place at Stillwater. I believe NM will upset the Wolfpack! Starliper is dealing with an injury and that is why she was not at Nuttycomb, and Will not be racing ACC’s as well. They cannot win without Starliper at Stillwater. Hopefully she can return for Nationals, if not they are toast!
If Sam and Seymour think they faded at Nuttycomb, it is going to be worst at Stillwater. Henes’ philosophy of not working on hills and just working on mindset and fitness is bad coaching. I believe that will work for Tuohy and Chmiel, but not for the rest of the team. With an injured Starliper, not working on hill running, and obviously no altitude training……I’m sorry but I don’t see the Pack winning. As much as I want them to win, if I had to make a money bet, it would be on NM at this point.
cool story bro. And how exactly do you know for sure that Starliper will not be running at ACCs?
You can let me know Friday if it’s a story or what I know which is……true story! Get back to me then! I will be waiting for you to say “sorry you were right!”
1. Probably no Starliper (which is why Sam said they will have to try and win a different way)
2. That course in Stillwater will cause major problems for Sam and Seymour. It is not a good course for their strengths. Seymour is a front runner and we saw two years ago what happened to Whitney Orton on that course and Seymour is not even in Orton’s league (she thought she hit a wall in Madison, just wait). Sam races from behind and uses her speed at the end. Problem with that is that Nationals is not on the track in Florida like last year, and the speed will be run out of her at Stillwater.
3. NM as a team is stronger than NCS because of altitude training and better coaching. NCS is fast and talented, but with no Starliper NM is the favorite in my eyes. I think Tuohy and Chmiel could go top three and they still loose because NCS 5th will be back in 70-80’s.
you are right about the course being a disadvantage to nc state, but then you are wrong about starliper... marlee will run!!!
hannah ran with an achilles injury last year, marlee with a stress reaction isnt gonna make them NOT USE HER.
• everyone doesnt do the exact same workout, theres other things she does that the other top 7 girls dont, same goes for everyone, they still all practice together regularly but then theres also an individual workout plan (which supports what coach henes and katelyn has said in interviews, trainings are also individualize, everyone has different ways to get to the same goal)
• in her words they are preparing for the hills rather mentally than physically by having a strong mindset, also i think its becuase their home trails and location doesnt really have big hills
• she has accepted her development pace
• she, katelyn and kelsey are the team's leaders and added that shes not that vocal and that doing her part is her way of leading(by example)
• sydney seymour likes to run up front
• she likes to run behind her teammates, she said if she sees sydney, shes still good in the race and just has to catch up
umm hopefully she changes that and runs behind katelyn and kelsey instead, i swear sam bush is so much stronger this year, she just has not fully believed in herself this season yet
if katelyn, kelsey places top 10 w/ sam placing top 15 and sydney top 20-30 and marlee at 40s
nc state can still pull the win
Great breakdown, thanks! The hills thing admittedly bothers me and really surprised me when I heard her talking about that on the interview. That can come back to bite them. (Which is also why I was excited they ran Nuttycombe and was hoping they’d really push themselves there).
I totally agree that it’d be better if she ran behind Katelyn and Kelsey! (However, she’s essentially stating that she knows she’s not that fast, but if she sees Sydney, she knows she can hang with her).