Top Triathletes Alex Yee and Hayden Wilde both ridiculously fast runners!

LarsL11 wrote:

to the gillssss wrote:

Solinsky is an extreme outlier at 6'1 160lbs.

Blummenfelt is 5+ inches shorter and 10lbs heavier at approximately 5'7-8 and 170lbs. He also has a VO2max of near 90, even though VO2max is normalized for weight so heavy people tend to have a lower running VO2max.

Blummenfelt demolished Yee on the run. Yee ran 27:50 4 years ago and 7:45 for 3k two years ago. Yee is likely in 13:15-20 shape without focusing specifically on running. Blummenfelt ran away from him.

It's safe to say that Blummenfelt either has the most unusual physiology for a world-class runner in the history of the sport, or there's something else going on.

Considering he comes from the same place where 70% of their Olympic medalists endurance skiers somehow had asthma, I know what side I'm betting on.

Link:www.letsrun.com/2010/heightweight0504....

1. You cant look at the run isolated. The sport is called triathlon, not running.

2. He has an unusual physiology. He has a deformed upper body for once, that makes him look stockyer.

3. Try to ski for 30 hours a week in minus 10 degrees. Trust me you will get asthma as well.

LarsL11 wrote:

to the gillssss wrote:

Solinsky is an extreme outlier at 6'1 160lbs.

Blummenfelt is 5+ inches shorter and 10lbs heavier at approximately 5'7-8 and 170lbs. He also has a VO2max of near 90, even though VO2max is normalized for weight so heavy people tend to have a lower running VO2max.

Blummenfelt demolished Yee on the run. Yee ran 27:50 4 years ago and 7:45 for 3k two years ago. Yee is likely in 13:15-20 shape without focusing specifically on running. Blummenfelt ran away from him.

It's safe to say that Blummenfelt either has the most unusual physiology for a world-class runner in the history of the sport, or there's something else going on.

Considering he comes from the same place where 70% of their Olympic medalists endurance skiers somehow had asthma, I know what side I'm betting on.

Link:www.letsrun.com/2010/heightweight0504....

1. You cant look at the run isolated. The sport is called triathlon, not running.

2. He has an unusual physiology. He has a deformed upper body for once, that makes him look stockyer.

3. Try to ski for 30 hours a week in minus 10 degrees. Trust me you will get asthma as well.

LarsL11 wrote:

to the gillssss wrote:

Solinsky is an extreme outlier at 6'1 160lbs.

Blummenfelt is 5+ inches shorter and 10lbs heavier at approximately 5'7-8 and 170lbs. He also has a VO2max of near 90, even though VO2max is normalized for weight so heavy people tend to have a lower running VO2max.

Blummenfelt demolished Yee on the run. Yee ran 27:50 4 years ago and 7:45 for 3k two years ago. Yee is likely in 13:15-20 shape without focusing specifically on running. Blummenfelt ran away from him.

It's safe to say that Blummenfelt either has the most unusual physiology for a world-class runner in the history of the sport, or there's something else going on.

Considering he comes from the same place where 70% of their Olympic medalists endurance skiers somehow had asthma, I know what side I'm betting on.

Link:www.letsrun.com/2010/heightweight0504....

1. You cant look at the run isolated. The sport is called triathlon, not running.

2. He has an unusual physiology. He has a deformed upper body for once, that makes him look stockyer.

3. Try to ski for 30 hours a week in minus 10 degrees. Trust me you will get asthma as well.

NERunner03533 wrote:

LarsL11 wrote:

1. You cant look at the run isolated. The sport is called triathlon, not running.

2. He has an unusual physiology. He has a deformed upper body for once, that makes him look stockyer.

3. Try to ski for 30 hours a week in minus 10 degrees. Trust me you will get asthma as well.

Raising up point #1. Yee is one of the best, if not the best, stand alone runners in triathlon. But his swim/bike still need some work. He'll be the first to admit that & you can see how much better he's gotten in those disciplines over the last couple of years. But this is why triathlon is pretty cool. The fastest open runner isn't always going to win. The fastest runner on the day doesn't always win. Tokyo conditions were absolutely disgusting. KB handled the heat/humidity the best. Maybe Yee wins if it's 70 with low humidity. It wasn't. Maybe Yee overreached by just a touch on the swim/bike in those conditions. He was identical to Kristian coming out of T2 but who was more fresh? Easy to just throw PED allegations out there. Kristian crushed him? He beat Yee by 10 seconds on a day only 3 guys went under 30:00 on the run. He was better prepared.

to the gillssss wrote:

NERunner03533 wrote:

Raising up point #1. Yee is one of the best, if not the best, stand alone runners in triathlon. But his swim/bike still need some work. He'll be the first to admit that & you can see how much better he's gotten in those disciplines over the last couple of years. But this is why triathlon is pretty cool. The fastest open runner isn't always going to win. The fastest runner on the day doesn't always win. Tokyo conditions were absolutely disgusting. KB handled the heat/humidity the best. Maybe Yee wins if it's 70 with low humidity. It wasn't. Maybe Yee overreached by just a touch on the swim/bike in those conditions. He was identical to Kristian coming out of T2 but who was more fresh? Easy to just throw PED allegations out there. Kristian crushed him? He beat Yee by 10 seconds on a day only 3 guys went under 30:00 on the run. He was better prepared.

Thanks for pointing out another piece of evidence... Blummenfelt should struggle more in the heat.

Heat production and storage are directly proportional to body mass. Larger runners struggle more than smaller ones on hot days. Blummenfelt is ~40-50lbs heavier than Yee.

As the extreme outlier in size, on a hot muggy day, he should be struggling.

More evidence to very unique physiology that defies essentially all that we know somehow.

no(r)way mach2 wrote:

LarsL11 wrote:

Dude she got best non african at worlds, that was bang on what would be expected. I believe all the runners ahead has better PB's. The "meet in norway" is often Bislett games which is a Diamon League meet where its tailored for her to PB. Not that strange to PB at home soil. Talk about inventing stuff.

She's a 14:30 runner who went through 3k in 9:10... DFL. Was unable to go with the field and was dropped. Yes others blew up in the last 1k, but it's odd for a runner who has run that fast to be distanced (watch the race - she was way off the back) off of such a slow pace.

2021 - runs 30:50 in a home meet. DNF at the Olympics in the 10k. Runs 14:47 earlier in the season - finishes 14th in 15:09 in the Olympics and is dropped early.

2019 - DNF at Worlds. Runs 14:51 early season.

2017 Worlds. DNF

So ya. She may just be a massive choke artist, but its a bit suspicious that she consistently "peaks" and runs world class times every year in Norway and then fails to replicate it on the world stage.

to the gillssss wrote:

LarsL11 wrote:

1. You cant look at the run isolated. The sport is called triathlon, not running.

2. He has an unusual physiology. He has a deformed upper body for once, that makes him look stockyer.

3. Try to ski for 30 hours a week in minus 10 degrees. Trust me you will get asthma as well.

Maybe that's the case. But

1. Olympic distance allows drafting. It takes the advantage of being a great biker out of it. There's a reason why traditionally the best triathletes are all great runners first. Yee, Wilde, Blummenfelt, Jorgenson, and so on. It's not always the case, but runners do the best.

2. History generally tells us that the physiology of the elite of the elites is unusual, but not between themselves. That means among the best of the best, it's remarkably similar. That's why there's never been an elite 10k runner who is 5'8 170lbs. The best guys are sticks. Even those who fall outside of that realm and are a touch slower, Solisnky or Ben True are taller but smaller guys 6'1 160lbs.

Blummenfelt is like if Solinsky weighed 195lbs and was kicking it in with Bekele.

Bigger guys generally struggle over longer races, as well. It's simple physiology. They can't cool themselves as well as a smaller guy with less surface area and less mass. Yet, Blummenfelt is redefining Ironmans, which last 7 hours.

3. It's not just asthma, Norwegian skiing has a long history of doping dating back to the 80s. Plenty of positives, scandals, and so forth.

There's no proof. But it certainly should raise questions.