The genius of Brosnan wasn't really the workouts or race-plans he gave, it was moreover the team culture he built. Going to altitude, never skipping practice, putting 100% in everyday and doing stuff like core, bands, doubles, thats why the program skyrocketted to success. That and an unbelievable amount of incoming talent each year. But the talent is gonna keep coming in, and with the classes of 23 and 24 and his assistant coaches still there that team culture is still going to exist and be alive an well for at least another few years. We'll see if he can build that atmosphere at UCLA, too.
The genius of Brosnan wasn't really the workouts or race-plans he gave, it was moreover the team culture he built. Going to altitude, never skipping practice, putting 100% in everyday and doing stuff like core, bands, doubles, thats why the program skyrocketted to success. That and an unbelievable amount of incoming talent each year. But the talent is gonna keep coming in, and with the classes of 23 and 24 and his assistant coaches still there that team culture is still going to exist and be alive an well for at least another few years. We'll see if he can build that atmosphere at UCLA, too.
This is close to the mark. Brosnan does not possess extraordinary training secrets. He participated in zoom calls during Covid with coaches with similar training methods. Establishing a team culture is key and then once established kids will be attracted to it. There are many examples of this now. Doug Soles did a nice job at Great Oak. He's since moved on to Herriman, UT, but the team culture at GO looks like it's still going.
The genius of Brosnan wasn't really the workouts or race-plans he gave, it was moreover the team culture he built. Going to altitude, never skipping practice, putting 100% in everyday and doing stuff like core, bands, doubles, thats why the program skyrocketted to success. That and an unbelievable amount of incoming talent each year. But the talent is gonna keep coming in, and with the classes of 23 and 24 and his assistant coaches still there that team culture is still going to exist and be alive an well for at least another few years. We'll see if he can build that atmosphere at UCLA, too.
This is close to the mark. Brosnan does not possess extraordinary training secrets. He participated in zoom calls during Covid with coaches with similar training methods. Establishing a team culture is key and then once established kids will be attracted to it. There are many examples of this now. Doug Soles did a nice job at Great Oak. He's since moved on to Herriman, UT, but the team culture at GO looks like it's still going.
He coaches Herriman too. I can imagine the culture will be very strong there
The genius of Brosnan wasn't really the workouts or race-plans he gave, it was moreover the team culture he built. Going to altitude, never skipping practice, putting 100% in everyday and doing stuff like core, bands, doubles, thats why the program skyrocketted to success. That and an unbelievable amount of incoming talent each year. But the talent is gonna keep coming in, and with the classes of 23 and 24 and his assistant coaches still there that team culture is still going to exist and be alive an well for at least another few years. We'll see if he can build that atmosphere at UCLA, too.
There is always another way to look at it. The culture he built was predicated on elites only. If you weren't a high performing middle schooler, who's parents are a little kooky, willing to pay any price and make any sacrifice, Newbury Park wasn't for you. The roster is very small and not inclusive of all abilities. Most of the lower tier runners quit early on.
Once you have that kind of roster, it's much easier to demand extraordinary things that most high school teams wouldn't consider asking their kids and families to do.
The genius of Brosnan wasn't really the workouts or race-plans he gave, it was moreover the team culture he built. Going to altitude, never skipping practice, putting 100% in everyday and doing stuff like core, bands, doubles, thats why the program skyrocketted to success. That and an unbelievable amount of incoming talent each year. But the talent is gonna keep coming in, and with the classes of 23 and 24 and his assistant coaches still there that team culture is still going to exist and be alive an well for at least another few years. We'll see if he can build that atmosphere at UCLA, too.
There is always another way to look at it. The culture he built was predicated on elites only. If you weren't a high performing middle schooler, who's parents are a little kooky, willing to pay any price and make any sacrifice, Newbury Park wasn't for you. The roster is very small and not inclusive of all abilities. Most of the lower tier runners quit early on.
Once you have that kind of roster, it's much easier to demand extraordinary things that most high school teams wouldn't consider asking their kids and families to do.
You make it seem as if the buy in is a terribly arduous chore. Just as in other sports certain kids want to dedicate themselves at bettering their craft. I have a co-worker who will try to walk on at one of the top college basketball programs. Nobody bats an eyelash when she describes the daily routines he does. He's also a good student. Maybe college basketball and the outside chance of playing professionally somewhere has a cachet that T&F lacks.
There is always another way to look at it. The culture he built was predicated on elites only. If you weren't a high performing middle schooler, who's parents are a little kooky, willing to pay any price and make any sacrifice, Newbury Park wasn't for you. The roster is very small and not inclusive of all abilities. Most of the lower tier runners quit early on.
Once you have that kind of roster, it's much easier to demand extraordinary things that most high school teams wouldn't consider asking their kids and families to do.
You make it seem as if the buy in is a terribly arduous chore. Just as in other sports certain kids want to dedicate themselves at bettering their craft. I have a co-worker who will try to walk on at one of the top college basketball programs. Nobody bats an eyelash when she describes the daily routines he does. He's also a good student. Maybe college basketball and the outside chance of playing professionally somewhere has a cachet that T&F lacks.
There is always another way to look at it. The culture he built was predicated on elites only. If you weren't a high performing middle schooler, who's parents are a little kooky, willing to pay any price and make any sacrifice, Newbury Park wasn't for you. The roster is very small and not inclusive of all abilities. Most of the lower tier runners quit early on.
Once you have that kind of roster, it's much easier to demand extraordinary things that most high school teams wouldn't consider asking their kids and families to do.
You make it seem as if the buy in is a terribly arduous chore. Just as in other sports certain kids want to dedicate themselves at bettering their craft. I have a co-worker who will try to walk on at one of the top college basketball programs. Nobody bats an eyelash when she describes the daily routines he does. He's also a good student. Maybe college basketball and the outside chance of playing professionally somewhere has a cachet that T&F lacks.
How did that post make it seem but in terrible and arduous?
i would imagine having a predetermined group of serious families and athletes makes it much easier, as the buy in to make sacrifices was already established before high school.
The genius of Brosnan wasn't really the workouts or race-plans he gave, it was moreover the team culture he built. Going to altitude, never skipping practice, putting 100% in everyday and doing stuff like core, bands, doubles, thats why the program skyrocketted to success. That and an unbelievable amount of incoming talent each year. But the talent is gonna keep coming in, and with the classes of 23 and 24 and his assistant coaches still there that team culture is still going to exist and be alive an well for at least another few years. We'll see if he can build that atmosphere at UCLA, too.
Actually it's the culture, the training program and the race plan. All three of those things.
Quite a few years ago, I was a co-head coach of a cross country team that was fortunate to win several CIF titles. At that time, we had to be very cautious about recruiting accusations. Parents of children outside our attendance area would frequently call. Once a student from a neighboring school appeared in my classroom doorway asking how she could join our program. Redirecting all inquiries to school administrators may have appeared rude, but having your coaching colleagues' respect is worth it. Simply, NP doesn't need to recruit. Their reputation draws parents to their program.
I raced in the CIF-SS in the mid '70's. We had a high school in our league that thought they were the poop. They drew from an area that touted themselves as a sport epicenter. Their cross team had flashy sweats and an arrogant attitude. I loved it!!! All that flash motivated me to train hard to beat them. I would have loved to have a Newbury Park type program in my area. I would have used them to make me better.
The genius of Brosnan wasn't really the workouts or race-plans he gave, it was moreover the team culture he built. Going to altitude, never skipping practice, putting 100% in everyday and doing stuff like core, bands, doubles, thats why the program skyrocketted to success. That and an unbelievable amount of incoming talent each year. But the talent is gonna keep coming in, and with the classes of 23 and 24 and his assistant coaches still there that team culture is still going to exist and be alive an well for at least another few years. We'll see if he can build that atmosphere at UCLA, too.
There is always another way to look at it. The culture he built was predicated on elites only. If you weren't a high performing middle schooler, who's parents are a little kooky, willing to pay any price and make any sacrifice, Newbury Park wasn't for you. The roster is very small and not inclusive of all abilities. Most of the lower tier runners quit early on.
Once you have that kind of roster, it's much easier to demand extraordinary things that most high school teams wouldn't consider asking their kids and families to do.
So what's your point? Is he supposed to demand less and make a mediocre team? Or suck just so others can be out there competing? Tim Butler at Dana Hills had cuts for his team. Yes...cuts. It creates VALUE for being out there grinding away. It's a varsity sport. Others were still allowed to be on the team. They quit....see ya later. Other teams can have cuts so why can't cross country/track? I remember Tim Butler saying, "If you don't have an attendance policy, you are a not a varsity team, you are a club." So if you are personally the coach of any team, perhaps you should advertise that you are not going to go above and beyond personally to provide the best athletic opportunities so kids of all abilities will get to participate. Better yet, tell them it's a club.
There is always another way to look at it. The culture he built was predicated on elites only. If you weren't a high performing middle schooler, who's parents are a little kooky, willing to pay any price and make any sacrifice, Newbury Park wasn't for you. The roster is very small and not inclusive of all abilities. Most of the lower tier runners quit early on.
Once you have that kind of roster, it's much easier to demand extraordinary things that most high school teams wouldn't consider asking their kids and families to do.
So what's your point? Is he supposed to demand less and make a mediocre team? Or suck just so others can be out there competing? Tim Butler at Dana Hills had cuts for his team. Yes...cuts. It creates VALUE for being out there grinding away. It's a varsity sport. Others were still allowed to be on the team. They quit....see ya later. Other teams can have cuts so why can't cross country/track? I remember Tim Butler saying, "If you don't have an attendance policy, you are a not a varsity team, you are a club." So if you are personally the coach of any team, perhaps you should advertise that you are not going to go above and beyond personally to provide the best athletic opportunities so kids of all abilities will get to participate. Better yet, tell them it's a club.
Those are just the facts. it’s not a matter of what he should have done or judging in any way. it’s just a fact that with that demographic on your roster, it changes what can be asked for or demanded from the team and their families.
There is always another way to look at it. The culture he built was predicated on elites only. If you weren't a high performing middle schooler, who's parents are a little kooky, willing to pay any price and make any sacrifice, Newbury Park wasn't for you. The roster is very small and not inclusive of all abilities. Most of the lower tier runners quit early on.
Once you have that kind of roster, it's much easier to demand extraordinary things that most high school teams wouldn't consider asking their kids and families to do.
So what's your point? Is he supposed to demand less and make a mediocre team? Or suck just so others can be out there competing? Tim Butler at Dana Hills had cuts for his team. Yes...cuts. It creates VALUE for being out there grinding away. It's a varsity sport. Others were still allowed to be on the team. They quit....see ya later. Other teams can have cuts so why can't cross country/track? I remember Tim Butler saying, "If you don't have an attendance policy, you are a not a varsity team, you are a club." So if you are personally the coach of any team, perhaps you should advertise that you are not going to go above and beyond personally to provide the best athletic opportunities so kids of all abilities will get to participate. Better yet, tell them it's a club.
I don't recall anyone questioning why Johnny was cut from the basketball team. After all he tries hard and comes to practice every day.
Anyway know/hear what happened to Christian Simone? Is he running in college? He was double transfer kid before latching onto NP, if I remember correctly.
Anyway know/hear what happened to Christian Simone? Is he running in college? He was double transfer kid before latching onto NP, if I remember correctly.
He went to U of O and ended up quitting running shortly after XC. During high school he went to Chaminade originally, transferred to Great Oak 2 hours south, and then transferred to Newbury Park for 2020 XC 2 hours north of Great Oak. My school ran against Chaminade in our middle school league and they would burn kids out before high school often so from my perspective that might have had some long term effect. He now has done a full loop and is an assistant coach at Chaminade High School.
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