Lex Young / Colin Sahlman at Sound Running Meet

mahjohngwayne · 2022-05-03T01:27:04-04:00

How fast will Lex Young and Colin Sahlman run at the Sound Running meet this Friday?Sahlman is trying to attack the 3:40 mark for 1500, he's in a field with mostly 3:38-3:44 runners. Sahlman ran 3:46 for 1500m last year and his 3:58 mile this year is equivalent to ~3:41.My guess is that Sahlman breaks 3:40 if the conditions are ok (temps are projected to be in the low 70s come race time (~6pm PT) and wind is around 6mph), and if the pace goes out quick (57-58 through the first 400m). Sahlman might hang in the middle of the pack through the first half of the race and sprint to the finish. Sub 3:39 would be an incredible effort and anything slower than 3:42 would likely be a disappointment.Lex Young is in a field of mostly sub-14 min 5,000m runners, with the obvious exceptions of him and Tyrone Gorze, another junior out of Crater (OR). Gorze ran 14:12 and 8:11 at UW this winter, while Lex Young ran 7:57 and 14:05 at RunningLane (Tully's conversion is to around 13:50-13:55 on a track).My guess is Young will be able to float on the back of the pack through 3k, probably in ~8:15, and finish in 13:50. Anything slower than 14 minutes will probably be a disappointment, and anything faster than 13:40 will go down as one of the great performances in high school history (Only Rupp has run faster).

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4 years ago 05/05/2022 1:38pm EDT

re: Respect CIF

Respect CIF wrote:
Skipping CIF seems like a huge show of disrespect and self-centeredness...
They could have run State, outdoor nationals in June, as well as other open meets after the high school season finishes.

Sahlman's not competing this season to earn a scholarship, that box has already been ticked. No need to run 3 1600s at CIF, 3 more at Master's and then 4 more at state in consecutive weeks AND run postseason AND get transitioned to ASU. Personally, I'd like to see him run one postseason meet then hang up the high school spikes and rest. Then slowly build for the next chapter.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 1:43pm EDT

re: SDSU Aztec

This Virgin guy would have been 5th man on the NP team, that is how amazing Brosnan's squad really is.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 1:50pm EDT

re: gumpyrunner

The AD kept trying to bend over backwards to help him try to run them in national meets instead of focusing on what ADs are supposed to do. He needs to explain to Sean that he just left a state title by the side of the road to allow the brothers to do their own thing.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 1:54pm EDT

re: gumpyrunner

gumpyrunner wrote:
... AND get transitioned to ASU...

That's obviously NAU

4 years ago 05/05/2022 2:52pm EDT

re: Soundofrunning

Soundofrunning wrote:
WC Track wrote:
This would be why Newbury Park is successful. They don't listen to advise like this. They don't owe you or anyone at CIF a thing. It's really that simple. They can do what they want to do. Others have skipped CIF and it will continue to happen year after year.
I keep thinking how mind blowing it is that a kid would value running a 5k at a random off the beaten path meet over competing for a state title with your peers, for your school, in a packed stadium and put your name in the record books forever. To each their own, but hard to understand.

It's official, Colin Sahlman is running g the Bowerman Mile on the 28th. Just saw the start list on citiusmag.

I would bet the packed stadium at Hayward Field might be an experience of a lifetime. Not a "random off the beaten path meet"

I bet Lex has a big meet in the works after his 5k Friday.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 4:12pm EDT

re: G Man

G Man wrote:
coachy wrote:
You do not want to run a mile, 800m or 3200m every 7 days for 5 weeks. That is not ideal for training / racing. They would still have to run the 3200m at 9:00 , 800m at 1:52 and mile at 4:10 to make it safe. It is not a smart move. And at the end of the day to people who are bent out of shape for not running CIF, they do not know what is best for the kid. Only the athlete, parent and coach know that. All this other talk about knowing what is best about someone they do not know is all BS.
Remember GF did not have all those rounds when he ran 4:00 and 8:34 at the state meet. It's their decision and good for Newbury Park and those kids. They know what they are doing and have proved that over and over again.

GF did run 4 straight weekends. I don’t remember his league time. But the following weekend after that he ran 4:05/9:00 at d3 sub-section and 4:07/8:45 at Sac-JoAquin Masters. Then that 4:00/8:34 at State. So GF did not have it that easy.

I agree it’s Big S and Lex’s business on what they run and I’ll be rooting for them.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 4:16pm EDT

re: WC Track

WC Track wrote:
I bet Lex has a big meet in the works after his 5k Friday.

Lex's coach already said that Lex will be running at least one other big meet after Friday's race, but he didn't say when or at what distance.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 4:17pm EDT

re: Soundofrunning

Soundofrunning wrote:
WC Track wrote:
This would be why Newbury Park is successful. They don't listen to advise like this. They don't owe you or anyone at CIF a thing. It's really that simple. They can do what they want to do. Others have skipped CIF and it will continue to happen year after year.
I keep thinking how mind blowing it is that a kid would value running a 5k at a random off the beaten path meet over competing for a state title with your peers, for your school, in a packed stadium and put your name in the record books forever. To each their own, but hard to understand.

Big S probably doesn’t get the 1500 record, but Lex has very good shot of taking down the junior record and that would make three this spring and he would be in the record books for ever.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 7:25pm EDT

re: mahjohngwayne

Looks like Sahlman is doing Pre also.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 9:27pm EDT

re: Aarick162

Looks like Colin went 3:39.10 and Lex went 13:45.10.

4 years ago 05/05/2022 9:58pm EDT

re: Track Guy

Track Guy wrote:
Looks like Colin went 3:39.10 and Lex went 13:45.10.

Looks like you are looking at the seed times.

4 years ago 05/06/2022 5:33am EDT

re: oldoldrunner

oldoldrunner wrote:
GF did run 4 straight weekends. I don’t remember his league time. But the following weekend after that he ran 4:05/9:00 at d3 sub-section and 4:07/8:45 at Sac-JoAquin Masters. Then that 4:00/8:34 at State. So GF did not have it that easy.
I agree it’s Big S and Lex’s business on what they run and I’ll be rooting for them.

Fernandez ran 4:14, 1:55, 9:09 on dirt at his league meet. He ran 4:11.62 in the state prelims.

4 years ago 05/06/2022 11:48am EDT

re: Respect CIF

Champions get remembered. But Record setters and barrier breakers never die.

Let the kids race what they want, this isn’t the AAU in 1970

4 years ago 05/06/2022 12:16pm EDT

re: Drew Who

Drew Who wrote:
Austin Tamagno was the last big CA distance talent to skip the CIF postseason in pursuit of loftier goals. How did that work out?

LOL. How did winning a state title work out for Jantzen Oshier and Hudson Andrews?

4 years ago 05/06/2022 12:26pm EDT

re: long forgotten

Winning a state team title for your school and all of your classmates also lives forever in the town, They definitely could have had that by shrewd doubling between the four. Admittedly they did it in XC, but in Track it is much tougher in Cali and that feat would never have been forgotten at Newbury Park.

4 years ago 05/06/2022 12:41pm EDT

re: ih8brandon

ih8brandon wrote:
Winning a state team title for your school and all of your classmates also lives forever in the town, They definitely could have had that by shrewd doubling between the four. Admittedly they did it in XC, but in Track it is much tougher in Cali and that feat would never have been forgotten at Newbury Park.

Newbury Park had the best cross country team in history. They will be remembered, you don't have to worry about that.

4 years ago 05/06/2022 12:46pm EDT

re: long forgotten

long forgotten wrote:
Drew Who wrote:
Austin Tamagno was the last big CA distance talent to skip the CIF postseason in pursuit of loftier goals. How did that work out?
LOL. How did winning a state title work out for Jantzen Oshier and Hudson Andrews?

Michael Stember pursued two lofty goals in a week, competing in both Pre and CIF State.

Stember won the Sac Joacquin Section meet at Modesto JC on May 23rd, then ran a sub-par 4:09.00 at Pre on May 26th (2nd to last ahead of Steve Scott) before winning state in 4:06 the following week and GWI (4:06.38) the week after that.

To each his own.

4 years ago 05/06/2022 12:48pm EDT

re: Dont Worry Be Happy

Dont Worry Be Happy wrote:
ih8brandon wrote:
Winning a state team title for your school and all of your classmates also lives forever in the town, They definitely could have had that by shrewd doubling between the four. Admittedly they did it in XC, but in Track it is much tougher in Cali and that feat would never have been forgotten at Newbury Park.
Newbury Park had the best cross country team in history. They will be remembered, you don't have to worry about that.

Track fans will remember but not the average student at NPHS. This is not a small Texas town where the football players are treated like gods in the community. Probably the only reason anyone outside of the XC and track teams knows about Colin Sahlman is because they had a ceremony for him when he won Gatorade player of the year and they probably announced it over the loudspeakers.

4 years ago 05/06/2022 12:55pm EDT

re: blue 7

blue 7 wrote:
Dont Worry Be Happy wrote:
Newbury Park had the best cross country team in history. They will be remembered, you don't have to worry about that.
Track fans will remember but not the average student at NPHS. This is not a small Texas town where the football players are treated like gods in the community. Probably the only reason anyone outside of the XC and track teams knows about Colin Sahlman is because they had a ceremony for him when he won Gatorade player of the year and they probably announced it over the loudspeakers.

If any of them won State I am sure they would have a ceremony and announce it over the loudspeakers. Win some other meet while competing "unattached", not so much.

4 years ago 05/06/2022 1:11pm EDT

re: Finnished at 344

Finnished at 344 wrote:
long forgotten wrote:
LOL. How did winning a state title work out for Jantzen Oshier and Hudson Andrews?
Michael Stember pursued two lofty goals in a week, competing in both Pre and CIF State.
Stember won the Sac Joacquin Section meet at Modesto JC on May 23rd, then ran a sub-par 4:09.00 at Pre on May 26th (2nd to last ahead of Steve Scott) before winning state in 4:06 the following week and GWI (4:06.38) the week after that.
To each his own.

That's great. But PRE and CIF are on the same day this year so CS does not have the option of doing both. He can try and win a state title or run against the reigning Oly and WC, the previous Oly champ and the US champ.

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