Headline should read: "Father Scared of Donating Kidney to His Child; Blames Liberals."
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Hospitals have policies for complicated and risky procedures like transplants. Imagine throwing a virtue signaling hissy fit because your political dogma is more important to you than your child's life. There are some truly awful parents out there.
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BJB wrote:
rojo wrote:
I don't get it. Can you explain to me why anyone would get Covid from an organ transplant?
Wouldn't the dad get tested for Covid right before giving the organ? Are the tests not accurate? If they aren't, couldn't you require him to do two weeks in isolation before the transplant? Have the dad check into the hospital for two weeks, never leave, and then give up the organ so you know he doesn't have it.
I 100% understand the logic as to why hospitals are requiring the recipients to be vaxxed. Organs are very rare. You don't want to waste them. But in this case, I don't agree at all.
1. It's basically a private transaction between a father and son.
2. If you don't take the dad's organ, the kid is going to have to get it somewhere so you will have one less life saving organ out there.
Im a transplant surgeon.
There are a few very good reasons for a transplant program to want living donors to get vaccinated for covid and a host of other disease.
When you do a living donor transplant you are putting a healthy person at risk. You are doing a complex operation on someone who doesn't need it, therefore, subjecting them to all of the possible complications associated with the operation. Therefore you try and do everything possible to minimize those risks, including making sure the patient has required immunizations. In the case of covid the donor is going to be in the hospital - a place where your there are covid patients and people working with them, so there is a higher risk of becoming infected than out in the world.
Donor complications are tracked very closely by internal and external oversight boards - if a donor got sick from covid they got around the time time of operation it could have serious implications for the program
Also this kid lives with his dad - the kid is going to be heavily immunosuppressed and at very high risk for severe covid and death if he gets it. The science surrounding this is clear. Why wouldn't the dad want to get immunized so he reduces the risk of bringing it home to his kid?
Any complication to a donor is devastating personally to those taking care of them. These people are treated like VIPs and they are truly selfless heroes. Just get a stupid shot and help
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In order for the hospital to break its policy to allow this transplant it would take a committee of several people and a board resolution.
In order for the father to help his son, he’d simply have to decide on his own to receive a safe vaccination.
There aren’t many things I wouldn’t do to save my own child.
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it's the lawsuit wrote:
Dad could have donated the kidney in 2018, but decided to make his kid continue to suffer on dialysis for a "few" more years.
Because the kid will be immunocropromised for life, I think the dad should get the vax, but again, we are talking about one less kidney for someone else because they are trying to mandate that someone who has already had Covid be vaxxed before giving up something very valuable.
If you read the article, there is a reason to wait. The dad waited as a kidney from a live donor only last 20 years so you want to only have the transplant when you really need it.
The person losing out here is the random person in need of a kidney not in the story - but now won't get one as the kid will get a dead person's kidney.
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Nustack McGee wrote:
The crazy part of this is that there is such an easy and simple solution for the family, but the dad is choosing against helping his son, right?
I mean, if you are thinking logically and you have all of the information that we all have, what choice would a logical person make:
1. Take the (extreme, lol, not) risk of getting vaccinated where something (absolutely nothing) negative might happen to you?
2. Let your son suffer kidney disease?
Out of hundreds of millions of vaccinations, how many instances of a negative side effect have there been? What is the likelihood of surviving kidney disease without a transplant? I guess everyone has their own right to interpret statistics any way they choose, but according to math and science there is a right way and a wrong way.
Let's really put it out there.
Even if the COVID vaccine was proven to be extremely dangerous, I'm talking about kills 1 in every 2 people who get it, wouldn't you still roll the dice on those odds if it meant saving your son's life?
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Ex L wrote:
In order for the hospital to break its policy to allow this transplant it would take a committee of several people and a board resolution.
In order for the father to help his son, he’d simply have to decide on his own to receive a safe vaccination.
There aren’t many things I wouldn’t do to save my own child.
It's really a stark reminder of how messed up the political climate in the US is now. We have a guy choosing the talking heads on TV and Twitter over his own son.
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The Gallant Pig Man wrote:
Headline should read: "Father Scared of Donating Kidney to His Child; Blames Liberals."
It really seems to me that this "father" decided to wait for someone else to donate a kidney to his kid. That is why he declined to donate his own to his son.
I have kids, now grown up. In the same situation I would immediately donate a kidney to my child. No reason to wait at all. No reason to wait months and months for someone else to donated. Get the kid off of dialysis is a top priority. I cannot imagine playing the waiting game.
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rojo wrote:
it's the lawsuit wrote:
The person losing out here is the random person in need of a kidney not in the story - but now won't get one as the kid will get a dead person's kidney.
Actually, we all lose rojo. Further evidence that people today are more self-serving, self-centered than ever. "Family? Bleep family. Community? Bleep community. Country? Bleep country too. I must get what I want and rightfully deserve regardless of how others are affected. Bleep them"
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Thank the lawyers, they gotta eat too!
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Also, you should really use a more legitimate news source if you want people to take you seriously. The Epoch Times is just another purposeful misinformation machine to anyone with a functional brain.
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Paradoxical wrote:
The science is pretty clear that contracting covid from an organ transplant increases one's risk of death from 15-30% so the restriction in this case makes sense.
1. Cite the study that shows this.
2. The vaccine does not prevent covid infection thus being vaccinated does not guarantee a covid-free kidney.
This is a political decision by the hospital, not a scientific one.
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Then the father is a useless sack of Sh1t.
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Sounds like you should rewrite that description: father won't get vaccinated to save child's life.
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zxvczxcv wrote:
Sounds like you should rewrite that description: father won't get vaccinated to save child's life.
How about, "father goes on conservative media hoping someone will donate a kidney to his child so he won't have to"
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What kind of father wouldn't get vaccinated to donate a kidney to his son? Carmine? Dan?
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ukathleticscoach wrote:
reed wrote:
No, the unvaxed father would have blood on his hands
what kind of father wouldn't get vaccinated to potentially save his son's life
Exactly
Would you let your kid drown because the life guard didn't jump in!
Absolutely
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surveysays wrote:
What kind of father wouldn't get vaccinated to donate a kidney to his son? Carmine? Dan?
Not applicable to me. I don't have kids.
Here's one father who would be here to raise his child if he had made a different decision.
This was 'very rare', unlike the typical propagandistic 'rare', 'infrequent', 'seldom', etc.
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DanM wrote:
surveysays wrote:
What kind of father wouldn't get vaccinated to donate a kidney to his son? Carmine? Dan?
Not applicable to me. I don't have kids.
You can just say you wouldn't if you had kids - we know that's the answer.
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