Wow…..Brian Flores is suing the NFL for discrimination!!

what?????? wrote:

Ben Shiller wrote:

He was fired by a black GM so it's hard to claim it was a racist firing. The parts about tanking are a bigger deal for the NFL because it throws the integrity of the sport in question. "Tanking for Tua" was a well-used theme but the tanking usually is not publicly disclosed.

SMH.....he is suing the NFL not about his firing. He is suing about the sham of the Rooney rule in the hiring.

32 NFL teams and currently only one black head coach in a sport that has been overwhelming dominated by blacks for the last 40 years. That's like all the NHL head coaches being black expect for one white head coach and the league being 94% white. White folks would have a fit.

What are you shaking your head about. I quote the first paragraph of the ESPN article:

Brian Flores has sued the NFL and three teams -- the Dolphins, the Broncos and the Giants -- alleging discrimination regarding his interview processes with Denver and New York and his firing last month by Miami.

He's suing the Dolphins (who hired him as a black coach and who hired a black GM who fired him) and Denver (as pointed out above, a team that has hired 2 recent black HCs) and the Giants (a wholly dysfunctional team that has gone through multiple rounds of horrible GMs and HCs). He isn't just suing the NFL.

Ben, thanks for speaking out for what’s right. It’s pathetic that most on this thread won’t acknowledge that racism has played a role in the hiring practices of people in leadership roles in this country, including, but certainly not limited to NFL head coaches. They seem to truly believe there is a level playing field and everybody gets the same consideration despite mountains of evidence to the contrary. Some have pointed out that the Rooney rule doesn’t work and is just virtue signaling. Hell ya, that’s because NFL ownership is all about white privilege and rules like that are far from enough to change their racist ways. People have been living in the sh-T for so long, they don’t realize they stink.

His complaint is complete nonsense with claims like this:

"These numbers come from a pool of players that is approximately 70% Black."

The pool of potential HCs most definitely is not the pool of current black players. Why would a team look at current players as candidates to be a HC? Moreover, anyone who went to college with a football team knows that the skills most football players possess (and lack) do not overlap with the skills required to be a HC. Sean McVay never played in the NFL. Zac Taylor never played in the NFL. Hoodie never played in the NFL. Andy Reid never played in the NFL. So the last 4 SB coaches never played in the NFL so obviously being an NFL player isn't some key need to be a top NFL HC.

Ben Shiller wrote:

His complaint is complete nonsense with claims like this:

"These numbers come from a pool of players that is approximately 70% Black."

The pool of potential HCs most definitely is not the pool of current black players. Why would a team look at current players as candidates to be a HC? Moreover, anyone who went to college with a football team knows that the skills most football players possess (and lack) do not overlap with the skills required to be a HC. Sean McVay never played in the NFL. Zac Taylor never played in the NFL. Hoodie never played in the NFL. Andy Reid never played in the NFL. So the last 4 SB coaches never played in the NFL so obviously being an NFL player isn't some key need to be a top NFL HC.

I was talking about equity... Why is equity ignored with players but expected for head coaches?

4:59 wrote:

Apparently ownership wanted to bring in Al Sal as a masseuse/physical trainer and Flores wasn't having it--that was the last straw.

Lol lol lol!!!

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:

He claims the nfl doesn't hire black coaches yet he was hired as a black coach. Then he sues AFTER he gets fired on a team which made the playoffs last year and failed to do the same this year. Weak.

One black head coach in 2022 in the entire NFL.

In a league dominated by black players.

Brave move by Flores. These billionaire owner creeps will stick it to him

Most HC hires are either OCs or DCs, plus the retreads that get fired as HC.

Kellen Moore is OC for the Dallas Cowboys. He has been interviewed for a HC position even though he is only 33. Why? It's not because he's white. It's because the Cowboys led the league in points scored and it wasn't even close. Moore's offense scored 530 points. Tom Brady was next at 511 and the Bills were next at 483. That's 2.8 points more than the Bills' #3 offense! And that's with Dak Prescott injuring his calf and never being the same the rest of the season.

If a coach wants to get hired as a HC, then he needs to get noticed as an offensive or defensive coordinator. This is where the focus should be on hiring minorities.

As far as Flores is concerned, he should have been fired after starting the season 1-7.

fisky wrote:

Most HC hires are either OCs or DCs, plus the retreads that get fired as HC.

Kellen Moore is OC for the Dallas Cowboys. He has been interviewed for a HC position even though he is only 33. Why? It's not because he's white. It's because the Cowboys led the league in points scored and it wasn't even close. Moore's offense scored 530 points. Tom Brady was next at 511 and the Bills were next at 483. That's 2.8 points more than the Bills' #3 offense! And that's with Dak Prescott injuring his calf and never being the same the rest of the season.

If a coach wants to get hired as a HC, then he needs to get noticed as an offensive or defensive coordinator. This is where the focus should be on hiring minorities.

As far as Flores is concerned, he should have been fired after starting the season 1-7.

So the good ol boys haven’t “noticed” Bieniemy and Leftwich?

I don't get the black/asian/white hiring deal. Shouldn't a company be able to hire whom they think is the best fit for them to win? If that means all the rbs are black then so be it. If that means all the coaches are asian so be it.

This may be part of the reason why so many inner city schools have bad teachers, they want to hire teachers that look like the students rather than those who can do the best job regardless of what they look like

The probables with trying to please everyone is that there are only 32 HC jobs.

There needs to be a pipeline of POC that are rising through the ranks and getting experience.

The current environment is trying to argue that at least 25% of HC should be POC. So the solution is hire them. This is not the solution, it starts with developing them.

Hiring people that aren’t ready for losing organizations to show compliance hurts everyone.

Leftwich got the Jacksonville head coaching position.

Bieniemy doesn't call the plays he's a completely unproven commodity. Being under a great coach doesn't mean YOU will be a great coach... Bellichick's entire coaching tree is hot garbage for example. The most "successful" was Flores and he's got a losing record.

He was Bill Bellichick's LINEBACKER coach and got a head coaching job because the league is "RACIST" apparently.

Good for him. The NFL has one active Black coach (Tomlin). All the coaches that have been hired in the most recent cycle have been white guys. Are we supposed to believe that, for example, Eric Bieniemy or Byron Leftwich are more qualified than some of these hires?

We saw what happened to Colin Kapernick, we saw what Jon Gruden was really like, and we've been the paucity of Black coaches in a sport that is 80+% Black. Yeah, the NFL has a real problem. I hope Flores forces real change.

1955 wrote:

Good for him. The NFL has one active Black coach (Tomlin). All the coaches that have been hired in the most recent cycle have been white guys. Are we supposed to believe that, for example, Eric Bieniemy or Byron Leftwich are more qualified than some of these hires?

We saw what happened to Colin Kapernick, we saw what Jon Gruden was really like, and we've been the paucity of Black coaches in a sport that is 80+% Black. Yeah, the NFL has a real problem. I hope Flores forces real change.

Colin Kaepernick is a clown. He didn't decide to become an SJW until AFTER he got benched.

The NFL is a BUSINESS. How many guys in the league or on camera beating their wives or kicking their baby mamas in the face in an elevator yet still have jobs? If you can do the job and help team win you will get a job.

Unless you're a moron who hurts business like Kaepernick. Anyone who's seen 15 seconds of Kaepernick's "the NFL is slavery" documentary knows the man is a cancer.

Leftwich is the front runner for the Jacksonville job.

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:

If he was still coaching, this would have never arisen with him. Again, he lashed out after he was fired. Hmm, just another former disgruntled employee.

I don't think he did a great job either and I think the Rooney rule a garbage because it turns black candidates into token interviews, but by rule the Giants cannot decide on a candidate until they interview at least one minority candidate. Flore absolutely has a case here.

BTW, Flores is a heck of a lot more qualified than some of the coaches that keep getting rehired.

Ok…now Hue Jackson has come out and said the Browns were paying coaches to lose games…..AND HE HAS RECEIPTS!! This may end up to be a bombshell!

Ben Crump wrote:

Ok…now Hue Jackson has come out and said the Browns were paying coaches to lose games…..AND HE HAS RECEIPTS!! This may end up to be a bombshell!

Losing on purpose to get a better draft pick has been going on forever.

This isn't a bombshell.

redderthedeader wrote:

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:

If he was still coaching, this would have never arisen with him. Again, he lashed out after he was fired. Hmm, just another former disgruntled employee.

I don't think he did a great job either and I think the Rooney rule a garbage because it turns black candidates into token interviews, but by rule the Giants cannot decide on a candidate until they interview at least one minority candidate. Flore absolutely has a case here.

BTW, Flores is a heck of a lot more qualified than some of the coaches that keep getting rehired.

Flores was the linebacker coach at New England when he got his first job and he failed at it...

In what universe is the linebacker coach more qualified to be a head coach than OC's and DC's and former Head coaches?

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

The NFL is a BUSINESS. How many guys in the league or on camera kicking their baby mamas in the face in an elevator yet still have jobs?

Zero.