Can we all agree RunningLane was a joke now?

hi school senior wrote:

jonesy22 wrote:

The idiocy in this thread is amazing. Brosnan has done a great job developing these kids so they can get scholarships and go to good colleges while having a great time doing so. Watch the L&L videos and see how much fun they have. Of course many of them won't improve alot in college or even drop running because they are developing into adults and college offers alot more than running. Most realize they have to prepare for living as an adult with job, family etc. and running becomes less important. It is the rare ones who can go pro.

They don't quit because they are focusing on school. They quit because they are burned out and kids running 30 seconds slower than them in a high school 3200 are now kicking their behind in college.

Oh yeah that 60 miles a week burns them out, you clown. Stop spouting such bs. Nico is so burned out, Jace is burned out, Colin will also be burned out when he gets to NAU. They are so well prepared to fit right in at NAU. I am sure coach Smith at NAU is just searching out all these burned out kids.

It’s a full 5k. It’s just super easy, they had nasa developed the fastest course possible. Not even joking the race director said that. The trims are very smooth, grass is very short, dirt is compacted, and no little elevation gain with a downhill last k. But a full 5k

big bop wrote:

Those aren't Americans.

Galen Rupp

Chris Solinsky

Dathan Ritzenhein

Matt Centrowitz

Cooper Teare

Cole Hocker

Grant Fisher

Donovan Brazier

All elite high school runners. I can’t hardly think of any male medal contenders who were not elite by age 18. All of these guys were stand out high school runners.

Current top Americans were undertrained in HS. I think that was the point.

"For Hocker’s high school coach Jim Nohl, the answer was low mileage. According to Hocker, he was only running 30 or so miles a week for most of high school, and cites this as one of the main reasons he was able to develop into the runner he is today."

Brazier was ultra low mileage.

Fisher was relatively low mileage.

Kessler was low mileage.

Mileage is one element of training. Just because you are low mileage does not imply undertrained. I can find workouts that each of those boys ran in high school that is not typical among high school athletes.

Newbury Park does not run high mileage as a program. They run about 50-65 miles per week. That’s the same mileage as Fisher and Kessler.

Brazier is an 800 meter specialist as well so it’s not really apples to apples there.

In the recent dyestat interview with Brosnan he directly said his job as a coach is to prepare them for college. Can't remember if he specifically said the word running but that's what he meant.

So, everyone blabbing on this thread about the job of a HS coach, fine. But he's said what his priority is. So right or wrong we can at least agree he's attempting to coach his runners with that in mind.

begone now wrote:

His job is to have the best HS team, not the best college runners.

Thus another reason why American distance running keeps sucking. We need the talent to get into ten year plans like Jakob. But our system ruins it.

I don’t doubt in ten years we won’t see any of these NP runners doing anything on the world scene,

The US is one of the to 5 countries for distance running. There are almost 200 countries. The US leads the world in the majority of sports. You are clueless.

Renewed Marathoner wrote:

In the recent dyestat interview with Brosnan he directly said his job as a coach is to prepare them for college. Can't remember if he specifically said the word running but that's what he meant.

So, everyone blabbing on this thread about the job of a HS coach, fine. But he's said what his priority is. So right or wrong we can at least agree he's attempting to coach his runners with that in mind.

We’ll, if that’s his goal and priority, having three alumni running in college after 6 years of coaching seems to be a pretty big failure.

Maybe so. I Just wanted to clarify for people making the wrong assumption about his intentions. So at least we are starting at the right place.

Preparing them for college means making them as fast as possible in HS in order to get the biggest scholarship.

Until they forfeit the scholarship after they quit. I personally don’t think it’s the high school coach’s responsibility, but if that’s what he says it is, by his own measure, he’s not doing so hot.

ritzwithsahlmanontop wrote:

Renewed Marathoner wrote:

In the recent dyestat interview with Brosnan he directly said his job as a coach is to prepare them for college. Can't remember if he specifically said the word running but that's what he meant.

So, everyone blabbing on this thread about the job of a HS coach, fine. But he's said what his priority is. So right or wrong we can at least agree he's attempting to coach his runners with that in mind.

We’ll, if that’s his goal and priority, having three alumni running in college after 6 years of coaching seems to be a pretty big failure.

Nonsense. He helps the kids prepare and improve so that the better one get scholarships. It looks like ALL of the varsity will get scholarships, seems coach is doing about as good as is possible. What the kids do after they get to college is p to them. Some will excel, some will do good, some will get injured, some will quit running.

He is preparing them for college. He didn't say that he is holding them back so they can improve in college. He didn't say he is setting them up for success in college. He said he is focused on preparing them. That means making them as fast as possible so that they earn the largest scholarship and get into the best schools.

Now we’re all going to debate what preparing someone for college means. Don’t talk about what will happen, talk about what has happened.

As a HS coach I take it as part of my responsibility to prepare the kids for college running. But with that said you have to get them fast enough to run in college. You also have to keep them interested and engaged in the sport to have them want to actually run in college. I don't feel like them working hard in HS or helping them get as fast in HS is in anyway stopping further development in College. But I guess that would depend on the training plan. I don't have any HS kids running 100 mpw or anything close to it.

You are correct. Preparing a meal, preparing to go to church, preparing to run a race, etc.

runnint wrote:

What a thread of idiots and teenage kid bashing nobodies.

4:05 in January! And you arent happy.

When this team has 3 drop under 4 minutes by June, redefining the sub-4 mile, then "mark it danny", you guys are far slobs who "get off" picking on the accomplishments of teenage children.

Unreal.

I don’t think you realize how hard it is to make the jump to sub-4 like that. They may have ONE go under 4. No way they have three or more. Or seven like some idiot suggested.

Actually, no.

I think some people in this thread should actually listen to his interview. This is not what he said. You're just putting your own opinion in.

He was referring to not overtraining his kids, not running 90 mpw for example. But doing all the little things right like getting enough rest, which should help prepare them for a college running environment.

This is just a small snippet.

Debating/saying the goals of a coach is that is contrary to what the coach literally just said at a decent length in an interview is stupid.