Why on earth are some people still having kids now?

OP = troll or genetic deadend

Having children is the point of life.

HRE wrote:

If you lived in the British Isles in 950 AD you had to worry that Vikings would come, carry off your crops, livestock, and wife, then kill you. If you lived in Central Europe a couple centuries or so later the same was the case but with Mongols rather than Vikings. As recently as the very late 19th Century you could never be sure you weren't soon to die in an outbreak of typhus or cholera. Life probably has never been safer than it is today, which is not to say it's risk free.

I'm with this guy. Yeah, the world is a flaming pile of poop at the moment but y'all are lying to yourselves if you think its a worse place than in the past.

Yeah, if you cherry pick a few decades in the 1900's it was pretty great potentially. But....throughout humans existence on this planet life is easy AF.

Now go bone your wives and pop out some kids you dufuses.

I'm 44 with two kids. I constantly ask myself how I thought I was busy before I had kids. haha

Seriously though. Even on my busiest weeks I had hours upon hours of free time. Now I have a 4 and 6yr old and I pretty much have to schedule time to take a dump!

The OP's math doesn't compute.

What's your schedule? Here's mine as an Army Instructor

0445: Wake

0530: Arrive at Work

0600-0730: Observe/Manage Students

0730-0900: Workout/Breakfast

0900-1200: Teach or Admin

1200-1300: Lunch

1300-1700: Teach or Admin

1730: Home

1800: Dinner

1800-2200: Wash Dishes, Watch TV, Play with kids

2230: Bed

Weekends are literally just all day doing whatever. Wife and I handle the chores together so its easy. Go downstairs to play with kids....and start laundry. You combine tasks where they make sense.

Alan

Two to three months of frequent raw doggin' it per kid. If it becomes too much later, you can always "go get some cigarettes"...

If you look back at human history, we're living in pretty much the best bit. Don't fancy living in 1500 for example. Sanitation and sewerage disposal are recent things, as are showers.

I make about 90k in a low cost of living area so I could afford them

I just don't want to be tied down

Part of me "knows" that 30 years from now I'll regret it more than anything.

But sitting here a a 34y/o I can't sign up for it yet.

Life sucks

Runningart2004 wrote:

The OP's math doesn't compute.

What's your schedule? Here's mine as an Army Instructor

0445: Wake

0530: Arrive at Work

0600-0730: Observe/Manage Students

0730-0900: Workout/Breakfast

0900-1200: Teach or Admin

1200-1300: Lunch

1300-1700: Teach or Admin

1730: Home

1800: Dinner

1800-2200: Wash Dishes, Watch TV, Play with kids

2230: Bed

Weekends are literally just all day doing whatever. Wife and I handle the chores together so its easy. Go downstairs to play with kids....and start laundry. You combine tasks where they make sense.

Alan

So you basically have minimal responsibilities/demands during a work day. Got it.

OP, I know plenty of 30 year old teachers with children who live in small apartments in NYC. They don't yet make $75,000 but they're managing.

Other posters presented they're own anecdotes on how they made it work.

101847403937474938 wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

The OP's math doesn't compute.

What's your schedule? Here's mine as an Army Instructor

0445: Wake

0530: Arrive at Work

0600-0730: Observe/Manage Students

0730-0900: Workout/Breakfast

0900-1200: Teach or Admin

1200-1300: Lunch

1300-1700: Teach or Admin

1730: Home

1800: Dinner

1800-2200: Wash Dishes, Watch TV, Play with kids

2230: Bed

Weekends are literally just all day doing whatever. Wife and I handle the chores together so its easy. Go downstairs to play with kids....and start laundry. You combine tasks where they make sense.

Alan

So you basically have minimal responsibilities/demands during a work day. Got it.

Define 'minimal responsibilities'?

A student fails something I have to counsel them.

Teaching is done via experiential learning so mainly me walking around a classroom getting the students to talk. "Why?", "How?", "Explain?"

Admin is a lot of paperwork because "Army". Also taking care of my additional duties like Facilities Maintenance. So i keep busy.

Alan

DragonLady wrote:

You’re right, and it’s destined to get progressively worse as smarter people elect not to have kids, leaving the imbeciles to populate the planet.

And with that, if you live to ripe old age, no one including us imbeciles will be there for you when you need it most.

Enjoy your little sphere of "life"

1/10. Terrible effort.

Obviously you are terrible with your finances.

Time? Sounds like you are even worse.

You've got 168 hours in the week. After working 40 & sleeping 56- Lets just say you sleep 8 hrs a night- You've got 72 hours left.... what the hell are you doing with your time?

Sounds like you are kind of selfish imo.. If you dont want kids, fine.. but it's not an issue of whether you can or can't.

My girl has hot friends damn. I am at an absolute crossroads because having kids is something that should be thought over thoroughly. If you're committed to kids, you should be sure you can provide them a great life. Most parents fail in that regard. Tough to hear but true. More people should take responsibility for their failings as parents but people are excessively self absorbed and liberalism has enabled an excessive lack of accountability.

There is so much more to providing your kids a great life than having a pile of money. Money was always tight in my family but my parents gave me a great life.

Nat Hickey wrote:

There is so much more to providing your kids a great life than having a pile of money. Money was always tight in my family but my parents gave me a great life.

Yep having rich parents can be poisonous for some children. Could lead to development of a toxic set of beliefs, sheltered lifestyle that creates a litany of problems/lack of experience and inability to cope with hardship amongst other things.

I understand why you might be confused. So let's look at a few facts:

Historically, there is less war today than ever before. It still exists, but historically we have less conflict today.

Humans as a whole are more prosperous than ever before. Humans are simply richer and better off. That's very hard to refute.

We need kids for our species to survive. Which I would say is a good thing consider we have the most potential for good as a species on our planet (and harm). It is the primary goal of every species on earth, to reproduce.

We need kids to take care of us when we get older. Generations are getting older due to declining birth rates and people are living longer. We will either be taken care of by our children, or by paid workers.

Kids bring meaning to our lives. This is a bit more of an opinion, but I know it really holds true for most parents in the world. It's the primary reason we live, to bring about the next generation. And hope that they will bring more good to the world than we could.

DragonLady wrote:

You’re right, and it’s destined to get progressively worse as smarter people elect not to have kids, leaving the imbeciles to populate the planet.

Are they really smarter if they elect to do that though?

Having children is NOT the “point of Life”. To each their own but don’t kid yourself

I've known or worked with a few people like you.

1. Your dumb. Not because you don't want kids. Because you haven't any mental or physical energy.

2. Your boring. See #1 why.

3. Marriage and having a family is the most basic and rewarding of all human adventures. Not for everybody, especially people like you.

4. Wait to your 60 something . You'll be so out of date....that your nickname will be 'Dinosaur'.

Get it? Probably not.