It’s official - Emily Infeld leaves Bowerman

Yes, a very ordinary coach with extraordinary talent and resources.

runningchick wrote:

Kinda crazy that a coach at that level does not know how to deal with individual runners and just puts one schedule for all and if you cannot follow that schedule then he doesn't care.

Sounds like my boss. And, yes, I'm getting ready to move on to greener pastures.

Crazy to think that human being can rise to that level of coaching with being not that good of a coach, just having talented people.

Then again one does not rise to those level with just being good coach

Doesn't Emily have the added pressure of a husband employed by Nike? Assuming arguendo that there is some shadiness going at BTC, that makes her very unlikely to go this route unless she or her husband is independently wealthy.

i think she's still competitive

It is crazy that people think Jerry is a good coach. He has a cookie cutter plan that is high volume and intensity. 10 miles of "threshold" work at set paces. Hang on until you can't anymore. Short reps with short recovery. Rinse and repeat. If you get hurt, oh well. If you survive then you can run well. The athletes he gets are incredibly talented. They would be successful anywhere as long as they can stay healthy. It's remarkable that more haven't broken.

BTC is not that dissimilar to Salazar and Julian. Just no spectacular failure like Cain and a larger group so that there will always be some successes among the injured.

Best talent and resources will always yield some great success.

902r wrote:

its hard to even mention anything related to BTC without also mentioning the Houliban

Well, BTC went full "ride or die" with her and fed us a bunch misleading crap when it was clear as day she was dirty. Their continued silence and complete lack of contrition is damning and they should be held accountable for their lack of forthrightness. They fact is, they have a doper who still associates with and is supported by the club/athletes, so we should be suspicious of all of them.

Hall basically gave the same reason as Infeld in leaving -- that Schumacher just wasn't flexible as a coach.

It also doesn't look good for BTC that they haven't made their announcement about this, thanking Emily or even acknowledging this news,.apart from reposting an Insta post from Nessa Fraser. You'd think they would at least come out with an announcement and thank you to Emily for her great work. Seems scummy of them not to yet.

Houliclan the athlete and Houliclan the coach both made high levels faking it. Somehow the coach one still has a job

Kenneth Copeland, Verified Millionaire wrote:

902r wrote:

its hard to even mention anything related to BTC without also mentioning the Houliban

Well, BTC went full "ride or die" with her and fed us a bunch misleading crap when it was clear as day she was dirty. Their continued silence and complete lack of contrition is damning and they should be held accountable for their lack of forthrightness. They fact is, they have a doper who still associates with and is supported by the club/athletes, so we should be suspicious of all of them.

100% agree with this. They just threw their reputations and hard work in a fire pit with Shelby, I'll never understand why.

I know in June when the info was still so raw, but I wonder if any have changed their minds and tune. If any believe the overwhelming evidence that Shelby was most likely doping. I wonder how the weight of that truth is weighing on the group.

Emily’s family is well off, and do people know how weddings work? You spend money but also get money and gifts.

She and her hubby will be fine.

Celantro turned Shelby into the dark side.

I also think that Celantro has something to do with Shelby’s positive drug test.

wgehtrh wrote:

cor blimey wrote:

Yes, a very ordinary coach with extraordinary talent and resources.

It is crazy that people think Jerry is a good coach. He has a cookie cutter plan that is high volume and intensity. 10 miles of "threshold" work at set paces. Hang on until you can't anymore. Short reps with short recovery. Rinse and repeat. If you get hurt, oh well. If you survive then you can run well. The athletes he gets are incredibly talented. They would be successful anywhere as long as they can stay healthy. It's remarkable that more haven't broken.

It's actually crazy that trolls on the MB's always try and discredit great coaches from HS, college and Professional. The coaching threads are the worst.

888-report wrote:

wgehtrh wrote:

It is crazy that people think Jerry is a good coach. He has a cookie cutter plan that is high volume and intensity. 10 miles of "threshold" work at set paces. Hang on until you can't anymore. Short reps with short recovery. Rinse and repeat. If you get hurt, oh well. If you survive then you can run well. The athletes he gets are incredibly talented. They would be successful anywhere as long as they can stay healthy. It's remarkable that more haven't broken.

It's actually crazy that trolls on the MB's always try and discredit great coaches from HS, college and Professional. The coaching threads are the worst.

In this case its the athletes who are discrediting the coaches and thus its super valid to speculate what is going on. If many athletes leave due to the coaching then it is not just a one-off situation where it did not work out with an athlete. Its systematic.

It's about time. I remember reading an interview she gave after her hip surgery where she said that her coach didn't believe she was injured. I could believe she stuck with Jerry after that. https://www.runnersworld.com/news/a26077410/emily-infeld-hip-surgery/

runningchick wrote:

In this case its the athletes who are discrediting the coaches and thus its super valid to speculate what is going on. If many athletes leave due to the coaching then it is not just a one-off situation where it did not work out with an athlete. Its systematic.

"Her coach, Jerry Schumacher, gave her some “tough love,” she explained. “Since I was able to push through and produce good workouts, he figured that I couldn’t be that hurt,” Infeld said.

“It’s so frustrating to feel pain, and then start questioning if it’s really there at all,” she said.

"Last month, Infeld explained her hip issue to the doctors at the U.S. Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and they ordered her to have an MRI of her full left leg. The image revealed that she had a severely torn labrum (the rim of cartilage that surrounds the hip joint), as well as a buildup of bone on her hip socket and femur head."