Takumi wrote:
Do we know who’s coaching Moen these days? Nice result!
Self coached with some help from one in his management team, Kristian Ulriksen. The latter is there to make sure Moens plans are safe and sound.
Takumi wrote:
Do we know who’s coaching Moen these days? Nice result!
Self coached with some help from one in his management team, Kristian Ulriksen. The latter is there to make sure Moens plans are safe and sound.
Cheers!
Times, records, I just don't care. But watching her seamless form, grace, smooth as liquid glass. I'm fighting so many issues these days just to put one foot in front of the other. But watching her run is keeping a spark in the back of my mind. How could one not want to run like her?
khcglhc wrote:
Does Adam Clarke from the UK consider himself to be a professional runner?
I wonder how he feels right now. Probably happy that he ran a PB today (1:02:59), but unfortunately..,
I also looked at the PBs of the guy who finished right next to her. His name is Javier Guerra. He ran a 2:07:27 marathon last year. His half marathon PB (also ran last year) is 1:01:21. He came 4th twice at the marathon at European Champs. Not a nobody.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
quite a turn around wrote:
Sure humidity and heat in Tokyo, but she just ran 2:58/km for 21.1km when she couldn't break 3:00/km for 10km? That's a stunning improvement/turn around of form. Could Sifan run 62:00? Or did Gidey find that many gears August to October?
Her pace was 29:49 which is equal to being 7th on the all-time 10000m list. It seems that running with the new shoes on the road is significantly faster than running on the track.
I think this an accurate assessment. Let’s get Hassan out on the road in super shoes and see what she can do. Gidey is great, maybe she will be the greatest, but right now Hassan is better. We saw this in Tokyo. Probably time for SH to leave the track and start her road career. Nothing left to prove on the track.
Others who were close to Gidey:
26 J.L. Barrios (Mex) 1:02:33 - 13:09/27:28/1:00:46
29 Adam Clarke (GBR)1:02:59 (7:55/13:39)
30. Thomas De Bock (Bel) 1:03:25 (2:11:54/Enschede 2021)
32 D.Boulvin (Bel) 1:03:37 (13:50/28:45) his 10,000 from French champs in 2021.
We can see from this and we saw it in the Seven Hills 15km that Gidey can hold her own against international B level marathon runners and half marathon runners. If Gidey were a man she would get on a huge number of national teams. I only scanned a few results and best times for many of these runners around Gidey. I am convinced that she can run under 14 minutes and 29 minutes on the track. I also think that within the next 2 to 3 years she could reach a marathon level of between 2:10:00-2:12:00.
I cast my mind back to the late 70s when female international runners were given super credit for running around 15:30/32:00. Not anymore.
Armstronglivs wrote:
qregw wrote:
Armstronglivs has never run a race.
He is a useless cynic who calls every fast runner a doper. Oh, unless they are white, from the British Commonwealth, and preferably raced before the 1990s.
But there's nothing surprising about women now running at the speed of males in a doped sport.
This person lies and cheats in his posts and refuses to do any studying or reading about what he posts about.
Needs banning: as nearly every thread says.
Incredible run. Agree with what others said that this record is really, really good super shoes or not. I think women are just catching up to men, who started running long distances a lot sooner & with better resources. We're seeing athletes in their prime now who have had better access to coaches/facilities/resources/etc. Sub-1:03 still seems wild but women are closing the gap. What an incredible run today.
Even though the course had no margin gain in downhill nor uphills it did give you the perspective of a continuous downhill the whole way.
So phycology I felt like I had a massive advantage to run a PR
Plus there Wasn’t any tight bends and it flowed really really good, reminded me of Monza race track
Toasty wrote:
Even though the course had no margin gain in downhill nor uphills it did give you the perspective of a continuous downhill the whole way.
So phycology I felt like I had a massive advantage to run a PR
Plus there Wasn’t any tight bends and it flowed really really good, reminded me of Monza race track
Yes, but a significant number of elite runners ran outside their best time, so the course here is absolutely legitimate.
Wise Old Man wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Her pace was 29:49 which is equal to being 7th on the all-time 10000m list. It seems that running with the new shoes on the road is significantly faster than running on the track.
I think this an accurate assessment. Let’s get Hassan out on the road in super shoes and see what she can do. Gidey is great, maybe she will be the greatest, but right now Hassan is better. We saw this in Tokyo. Probably time for SH to leave the track and start her road career. Nothing left to prove on the track.
And take away Gidey's pacers. She's a metronome but needs to prove herself as a championship racer if she wants to be a true great, or win some WMMs. WRs are impressive but racing is about who you beat more than the times you do it in.
liar soorer wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
But there's nothing surprising about women now running at the speed of males in a doped sport.
This person lies and cheats in his posts and refuses to do any studying or reading about what he posts about.
Needs banning: as nearly every thread says.
+1
So….. there’s only 4 or 5 guys right now in the whole of the US that could beat her time at that distance? PATHETIC!!!!!
maxwell wrote:
and somehow we are to pretend that the olympics are more important than a race like this.
I mean, they are
They released Gidey's splits here including the correct 20K split:
05K: 14:59.434 (1:03:15 pace)
10K: 29:44.460 (1:02:44 pace)
15K: 44:28.838 (1:02:33 pace)
20K: 59:45.909 (1:03:02 pace)
Fin: 1:02:51.385
https://gist.github.com/hpr/449e1a79696faa5b14e1b23584e9a740
Split times:
00K-05K: 14:59.434
05K-10K: 14:45.026
10K-15K: 14:44.378
15K-20K: 15:17.071
20K - Fin: 03:05.476 (4:31/mi pace last 1.1K)
Anyone know what the old 20K world best was? She probably beat it by even more time than the HM WR, certainly the first sub-hour 20K.
She would have straight-up won this year's USATF 20K champs, outkicking Ben True at the finish line by 8 seconds:
https://www.flipsnack.com/usatf/2021-usatf-20-km-championships-results/full-view.html
What a crazy race. Even with the super shoes it's totally changed my perception of the gap between men and women (and Gidey vs. the rest of the women), that isn't explained by the shoes alone.
(P.S. there is a bug with merged threads where it says that GiveJusticeToGidey! wrote the thread when I have the first post. i didn't write the title of this thread)
Ghost1 wrote:
Others who were close to Gidey:
26 J.L. Barrios (Mex) 1:02:33 - 13:09/27:28/1:00:46
29 Adam Clarke (GBR)1:02:59 (7:55/13:39)
30. Thomas De Bock (Bel) 1:03:25 (2:11:54/Enschede 2021)
32 D.Boulvin (Bel) 1:03:37 (13:50/28:45) his 10,000 from French champs in 2021.
We can see from this and we saw it in the Seven Hills 15km that Gidey can hold her own against international B level marathon runners and half marathon runners. If Gidey were a man she would get on a huge number of national teams...
B lister? She tied with Javier Guerra, who is a 2:07:27 marathoner. 5th all time for Spain. Only three Americans have ever run the marathon faster than him.
What does one need to run to be an A lister?
Ghost1 wrote:
Toasty wrote:
Even though the course had no margin gain in downhill nor uphills it did give you the perspective of a continuous downhill the whole way.
So phycology I felt like I had a massive advantage to run a PR
Plus there Wasn’t any tight bends and it flowed really really good, reminded me of Monza race track
Yes, but a significant number of elite runners ran outside their best time, so the course here is absolutely legitimate.
Thank you Toasty. I am curious about these Valencia courses. Rhonex Kipruto running 26.24 for the 10k in January and now this half marathon result.
Ghost, yes many elites ran badly but I know how that can happen. I've had good and bad half marathons on fast courses.
Toasty wrote:
Even though the course had no margin gain in downhill nor uphills it did give you the perspective of a continuous downhill the whole way.
So phycology I felt like I had a massive advantage to run a PR
Plus there Wasn’t any tight bends and it flowed really really good, reminded me of Monza race track
What was your time?
Sub-30 10k split!
I was fooling around on a treadmill at workout this morning, doing some intervals at 12mph, the treadmill max. LMAO she bettered that pace for 10k as part of a HM!
Amazing!
Off topic, are the super shoes durable as trainers? My Mizunos are dying, I will have to find something else soon.
Letesenbet Gidey SMASHES Half Marathon World Record in debut at 2021 Valencia Half Marathon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGVEyVzW65g
5 KM split 15:00
10 KM split 29:45 (14:45 last 5 km)
15 KM split 44:29 (14:44 last 5 km) (29:29 last 10 km)
Half Marathon time 62:52
old HM WR 64:02 Ruth C