He tried to do the Eamonn Coghlan thing except Coghlan did it in a World Championship, it was more offensive than what Coghlan did and he's nowhere near the runner Coghlan was and Coghlan actually won the race. He was showing up the Canadian and was properly punished for it.
Jon Drummond was considered the Clown Prince of track and field but that guy raced and competed hard and put it on the track. This guy isn't good enough.
Letsee wrote:
Just saw the clip - I'm not sure if even he wouldn't have raised his hand if he would have been able to hold off Beamish. At least now, he, and track, have a great story!
He wouldn't have been able to. The beauty of all this is, it didn't matter.
What is Engels' job? to gain publicity, and therefore publicity for his sponsor. What is everyone talking about? I barely noticed that Mu broke her own AR, but EVERYONE is talking about the int'l mile... because of craig. Love him, hate him, he's the reason that race is being talked about. Ergo, he did his job. Everyone seems to be missing this point. Frankly, I think it's awesome that craig is both doing his job (very well, I might add) and having fun at the same time. Not everyone succeeds at this.
lurker of the socials. wrote:
Letsee wrote:
Just saw the clip - I'm not sure if even he wouldn't have raised his hand if he would have been able to hold off Beamish. At least now, he, and track, have a great story!
He wouldn't have been able to. The beauty of all this is, it didn't matter.
What is Engels' job? to gain publicity, and therefore publicity for his sponsor. What is everyone talking about? I barely noticed that Mu broke her own AR, but EVERYONE is talking about the int'l mile... because of craig. Love him, hate him, he's the reason that race is being talked about. Ergo, he did his job. Everyone seems to be missing this point. Frankly, I think it's awesome that craig is both doing his job (very well, I might add) and having fun at the same time. Not everyone succeeds at this.
Yeah, it would have been even better publicity (and more fun) if Craig dropped his pants and took a massive dump in lane 1!!!!
Good for the sport!!!!!
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knowitall69 wrote:
Is Engles a JV type runner? Looking like the hobby jogger HS kid that finishes last and hypes up the crowd LOL
Man, that was cringe. Wow.
Except he got second in the most competitive US mile of the year except bowerman(which only had one US runner in it)
Agree that he comes off as goofy and maybe a little lazier and less dedicated to the sport than many of his peers but at the end of the day he is one of the fastest milers in America while also having a good time with it. I don’t think he should change anything about what he does it is obviously working for him, the results he achieves are far more impressive than anyone else with his kind of attitude, that is for sure. He is surrounded mostly by try hard nerd types, most of whom treat running as a job or some kind of equation they are trying to solve while Craig just runs. He’s just enjoying it, we need more of that. Also, as another poster said he laughed as he got beat by Beamish showing that he immediately realized how dumb he made himself look.
Pretty sad that the juniors ran just as fast at altitude with no pacer.
That's the problem is that he's one of the best US milers which right now doesn't mean much. There's only one guy right now that is anything near being a factor in any international field. A country of 328 million people. I'd say Engels is symptomatic of the current decline.
French Dawg wrote:
the results he achieves are far more impressive than anyone else with his kind of attitude, that is for sure. He is surrounded mostly by try hard nerd types, most of whom treat running as a job
If that's his standard then he should start a movement to create a new class of competition for athletes pretending not to care.
I used to have this attitude when I was in middle school, but most adults grow out of it. Sure I got 45th place in my XC meet or only got a C on my test, but that's only because everyone ahead of me tried so much harder. What losers and nerds. I was actually 1st/A+ (in my imaginary, low-effort, to-cool-for-school category). It's an attitude children adopt to deal with failure.
Oh, by the way, running is a job for pretty much everyone we're talking about, including Craig.
William Faulkner is 2nd Rate wrote:
High hopes wrote:
He kind of looks like he's just enjoying himself racing, earning a little cash, living the pro life before he retires in the near future. There's not much to race for this year so we won't get an idea of how serious he is until he starts the build up to world's next year. But he looks pretty content with how things are for him atm
I really strongly doubt that if Noah Lyles or Sha'Carri Richardson or Michael Norman or Fred Kerley or Athing Mu or... you get the idea... SHOWBOATED while they had a big lead, then got utterly WALKED DOWN, then played buddy buddy w/ whomever beat them and acted like they didn't give a crap, all of this after apparently training at their local bar, that this would be LRC's reaction.
Actually, all you have to do is peruse the thousands of pages in the history of this fair website that pertain to black runners to see the difference in attitude.
No, it's YOU that is the RACIST to imply people make excuses for Engels because he's white. Noah Lyles is a big showboater as well and LRC loves him. Even after his poor performances in the Olympics, people still supported him and were happy to see him focusing on his mental health.
This site WORSHIPS Athing Mu. Nobody said anything about Kate Grace placing 2nd against a STACKED field. We ignored the white girl. LRC also trashes Centro for his bad season.
You are a disgusting pig. You are the racist and you should be BANNED.
thoughtsfailure wrote:
Nobody said anything about Kate Grace placing 2nd against a STACKED field. We ignored the white girl.
LRC also trashes Centro for his bad season.
1) What more can be said about Grace than what was said -- she won "the race for 2nd" on a day when only the winner ran well? That the STACKED field had an off-day? That she broke her string of PR races? That we now know that Grace is not, and never will be, a 1:56 runner?
I'm a KG fan, but the hype around her is a bit much. There is more than a touch of the manic pixie dream girl about her role at LRC.
2) Centro is many things. White is not one of them.
Threads like this remind me that that LR is just a mix of boomers who didn't watch the race and virgins. The crowd loved Craig. Sure it was a dumb move, but hes entertaining to watch. Its not like hes a bum at the back of the pack. He still ran 3:55.
Craig Engels announced possible retirement if professional contract is not available after Fall semester 2021:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh3uti2we_UEngels will pursue an MBA this fall and spring 2022.
There's no way around it, he just hasn't been focused since the trials and has been racing like crap because of it. It's kind of sad to watch actually. Seems like he puts on this big happy celebration even when he races like crap to cope with the fact that he's disappointed, which is why I think he's always drinking beer after his races. I think he probably lost focus during covid last year and developed an alcohol problem. If I was his coach, I would have just told him to take it easy in training, chalk the rest of the season to relax and enjoy life a little bit in order to mentally prepare for next season. Hopefully he regains the same fire that led to him becoming a US champ.
Celebrating with the early hand wave. What a hack! No championship-caliber runner would ever do something so juvenile...
He’s a really great runner. Lots of heart. I think you are being somewhat insulting here.
evening coffee wrote:
He’s a really great runner. Lots of heart. I think you are being somewhat insulting here.
He's great by today's US standards. But consider this. He hasn't run as fast as Jim Ryun at any distance and Ryun ran 55 years ago. He's weak, physically and mentally.
spiel des jahres wrote:
Celebrating with the early hand wave. What a hack! No championship-caliber runner would ever do something so juvenile...
Please, tell us ALL about Engles's championship wins at the pro level…
I’d argue that Craig is by far the most popular men’s distance runner in the US by a wide margin, maybe even out of every men’s track athlete today. Go to one of these races and see who gets hounded the most for pictures and autographs, it’s Craig. He’s not the best or most talented and even he knows it, so why not live your best life and travel the world while making solid money while you can. Everyone complains about why track isn’t more popular, well if we had more athletes like Craig it would be.
pleb wrote:
He was just having fun. There was nothing at stake here since they ended up not running fast for a time.
You must be one of those that thinks time is all that matters and Centro’s Olympic gold isn’t real.
What the hell was that race...63 for the third lap.
https://anchor.fm/citius-mag-podcast/episodes/Craig-Engels-Addresses-Retirement-Rumors--Port-A-Potty-Business--Life-After-Missing-the-Olympics--Pre-Classic-Bonus-Interview-e16bhn9Podcast in 2021 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvxQUSj3kNQCraig Engels announced possible retirement if professional contract is not available after Fall semester 2021:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh3uti2we_UEngels will pursue an MBA this fall and spring 2022.
Craig Engels Addresses Retirement Rumors, Port-A-Potty Business, Life After Missing the Olympics | Pre Classic Bonus Interview 21 August 2021 - Post 5th Avenue mile party in New York Road Runners Sunday, September 12
runnerman1234 wrote:
I’d argue that Craig is by far the most popular men’s distance runner in the US by a wide margin, maybe even out of every men’s track athlete today.
What the hell are you smoking? Get out of your bubble.