GRANT MFFFFF FISHERRRRRRRR

So Grant did the same a Rupp (2016) but slower time and he is a hero? Didn't see the same level of enthusiasm for Galen

too negative wrote:

Tinman elite wrote:

What kind of medal does one get for 5th? Tin?

I noticed you’ve felt the need to post this very same comment on 3 threads. If you’re American, shame on you. Get some mf’ing pride.

First year as a pro finishing 5th in a global championship; how can anyone say something negative about that?

re: "What kind of medal does one get for 5th?"

I figured out some time ago that there is only a couple of people who make these stupidly negative posts all the time. The commonality is they get in early, usually waiting for no more than about a dozen or so positive comments before they make a counter comment. Their comments are short, never insightful, provide no value and are usually in the form of a dig and they will post similar comments on multiple threads. The main problem with these trolls is not the fact they are negative and that you disagree with them, but they fact never any context to what they are saying. They don't give you any idea why they are saying what they are saying. I don't believe they believe what they are saying, These trolls seem to know when most of us are happy and excited about something. I think they just like getting a rise out watching people like me and you respond to them. Unfortunately it is very difficult to not get triggered by these trolls and not respond.

Plenty of enthusiasm for Galen he just had a harder act to follow finishing 2nd in London. And he got bronze in the Marathon, so nobody was complaining then.

This is a huge breakout for Fisher, who had no major international performances.

How long until someone calls for him to move to the marathon?

adidasmark wrote:

How long until someone calls for him to move to the marathon?

Fisher should move to the marathon!

Good race by Grant in tough conditions against top competition. Go USA!

early morning chub wrote:

Remember when they debated whether Grant or Drew Hunter had the better training situation?

What a run by Grant.

Alright, I'll say it.

I hate Drew Hunter!

Ahmed was spent after going for glory 150m out. Liked that he was going for victory.

How will the 5000 shake out? Ahmed will be even a stronger presence at that distance.

Other BTC ers I predict will not be in the lead pack near the end. Woody wil wear and discard arm warmers again, and Fischer will consider his 10000 his better performance once it's done.

Roflcopter wrote:

Ahmed was spent after going for glory 150m out. Liked that he was going for victory.

How will the 5000 shake out? Ahmed will be even a stronger presence at that distance.

Other BTC ers I predict will not be in the lead pack near the end. Woody wil wear and discard arm warmers again, and Fischer will consider his 10000 his better performance once it's done.

Anyone who’s still adding a superfluous ‘c’ to Fisher’s name is DQ’d from discussing his results and future prospects.

I would like to see him target Lagat’s 12:53.60 AR after the Olympics.

byu shorts wrote:

When the testing is all said and done be he will have a medal. 🏅

Dude’s a member of the Flying Burrito Brothers and ran unexpectedly well—he’s as suspect as anyone who beat him!

raging clue wrote:

Grant is in 27 flat shape. He ran that 27:11 earlier in the year and just seems to look better and stronger with each race. He’ll crack sub 27 next year if he stays healthy. 10 AR is very tough but wouldn’t bet against Grant at this point

He's really not. He's in 27-low shape. He had the ability to suffer the heat today, better than most of the Europeans and North Americans, but to extrapolate from that to "sub-27 shape" is a huge stretch. He might get there at some point but, at 24 he's got years of progression left in him. But let's not go nuts: he had a good race in extreme conditions, there's no way to tell how this will translate into performance under good conditions

Grant is potentially in AR shape right now. Conditions were poor in a championship-style race. And for those saying that the heat was an equalizer look where Woody and Klecker ended up. The fact is that the only people who beat him today are all-time 10000m men. Here is a look at the resumes of the guys he was in position to beat with a lap or so to go.

1 Barega: Top 30 alltime 10k list 26:49, 7th best 5k performance 12:43, 2019 worlds silver 5k, 2020 10k gold

2 Cheptegei: 5k wr holder 12:35, 10k wr holder 26:11, 2019 worlds gold 10k, 2020 silver 10k, 2017 worlds silver 10k

3 Kiplimo: 7th best 10k performance 26:33, 21st best 5k performance 12:48, 2nd best HM performance 57:37, 9th best 3k performance 7:26,

4 Berihu Aregawi is a bit more of an unknown but had just broken on to the scene at the age of 20 making the Ethiopian team with a 10k time of 26:50

I also lap optimized his splits per k and got an optimized time of 27:12.89. Accounting for the heat with Daniels calculator a time of 26:30 was given as an equal performance under ideal conditions. While I figure these pacing and environmental adjustments to be a bit generous, I do not think 26:44 is out of question given that this is his performance on the international scene. My dude is a gamer and I'm excited to see what he is capable of in the 5k where I thought his chances of placing in the top 5 were greater than the 10k.

Tinman elite wrote:

early morning chub wrote:

Remember when they debated whether Grant or Drew Hunter had the better training situation?

What a run by Grant.

What kind of medal does one get for 5th? Tin?

Exactly. Congrats on not wining you loser. Grant is such a total clown. Might as well have not even shown up if you’re just going to embarrass yourself like that.

te5n1k wrote:

no one had any expectations for the americans in this race. a lot of people believed some would even be lapped (those same people also apparently thought it would be a 2630 race...great prediction!). so to finish 5th in one of the strongest 10k fields ever assembled is pretty good and he seems to be on an exciting trajectory moving forward.

te5n1k wrote:

no one had any expectations for the americans in this race. a lot of people believed some would even be lapped (those same people also apparently thought it would be a 2630 race...great prediction!). so to finish 5th in one of the strongest 10k fields ever assembled is pretty good and he seems to be on an exciting trajectory moving forward.

Don’t worry, the next Olympic 10k will be a 26:20 type race. Or at least, LRC will continue to predict such things until it actually happens, at which point they’ll pat themselves on the back so hard that they’ll dislocate a shoulder.

idjogger wrote:

Tinman elite wrote:

What kind of medal does one get for 5th? Tin?

Exactly. Congrats on not wining you loser. Grant is such a total clown. Might as well have not even shown up if you’re just going to embarrass yourself like that.

Why do people write like this on these threads? It was a great run, unexpected, by this young American. Might have a bright future, but not so some of the discussions here. It is getting worse.

KaareV wrote:

idjogger wrote:

Exactly. Congrats on not wining you loser. Grant is such a total clown. Might as well have not even shown up if you’re just going to embarrass yourself like that.

Why do people write like this on these threads? It was a great run, unexpected, by this young American. Might have a bright future, but not so some of the discussions here. It is getting worse.

I think the person before you was being facetious but yes the original question is silly

High hopes wrote:

raging clue wrote:

Grant is in 27 flat shape. He ran that 27:11 earlier in the year and just seems to look better and stronger with each race. He’ll crack sub 27 next year if he stays healthy. 10 AR is very tough but wouldn’t bet against Grant at this point

He's really not. He's in 27-low shape. He had the ability to suffer the heat today, better than most of the Europeans and North Americans, but to extrapolate from that to "sub-27 shape" is a huge stretch. He might get there at some point but, at 24 he's got years of progression left in him. But let's not go nuts: he had a good race in extreme conditions, there's no way to tell how this will translate into performance under good conditions

“Good race”. That’s an understatement.

Fisher had a phenomenal race in the Olympic Games. I’ll repeat… the Olympic Games!

At this stage in his professional running career, he ran strategically perfect for where he is at.

He carved up a field of sub 27 runners and was never out of contention.

He was ahead of every Kenyan in the field.

Another 10 m and he would have been fourth.

It’s his third 10k.

Dude crushed it.