Still no sponsor for Quigley?

Agreed - Something went wrong here. Personally I think she should have stayed with BTC. She is now training alone, instead of with the top American women in the country. She has no sponsor, and is trying to make deals just a few months out from trials (an already stressful time). This couldn't have panned out the way she wanted it to, I think something went wrong and now they're probably scrambling and if I had to bet, I'd say she's going to end up landing around where Nike did and she's out the best training partners and a good coach.

Why is this funny to you? Senior software developers are highly educated and marketable skills. Colleen is marketable and elite athlete but what has she done in her specialty to out earn your software developer?

Buncha illiterate slugs commenting on things they've never experienced even second-hand. Don't you change, Letsrun!

emr0129 wrote:

LMW9 wrote:

Great posts, another perspective. Her agent bungled the whole situation and now she's under the gun. Hope she gets it all sorted soon.

Agreed - Something went wrong here. Personally I think she should have stayed with BTC. She is now training alone, instead of with the top American women in the country. She has no sponsor, and is trying to make deals just a few months out from trials (an already stressful time). This couldn't have panned out the way she wanted it to, I think something went wrong and now they're probably scrambling and if I had to bet, I'd say she's going to end up landing around where Nike did and she's out the best training partners and a good coach.

The train definitely went off the tracks, and it's a shame. One of the few positives that I can see involves the change of coaches. Jerry Schumacher enjoys a great reputation, but his training doesn't suit everyone, especially Colleen Quigley. Perhaps her new coach will create a better program for her.

emr0129 wrote:

LMW9 wrote:

Great posts, another perspective. Her agent bungled the whole situation and now she's under the gun. Hope she gets it all sorted soon.

Agreed - Something went wrong here. Personally I think she should have stayed with BTC. She is now training alone, instead of with the top American women in the country. She has no sponsor, and is trying to make deals just a few months out from trials (an already stressful time). This couldn't have panned out the way she wanted it to, I think something went wrong and now they're probably scrambling and if I had to bet, I'd say she's going to end up landing around where Nike did and she's out the best training partners and a good coach.

Maybe she'll train with Alexi Pappas. They're friends and have run together before, but not every pro needs a training group, right? Brenda Martinez trains solo if I'm not mistaken.

LMW9 wrote:

inthegap wrote:

This is all good stuff you wrote here. It definitely seems that Quigley has gotten ahead of herself in all of this, blowing her relationship with Nike and losing her valuable BTC coaching in the process.

Let’s be clear, she is not ever going to be a world champion or Olympic medalist. At best she will be a nice show pony for a smaller running brand, but will they put up with her demands?

Yup although I think it was time for a different coach. Her previous training kept leading to injuries. Maybe she should have given up the steeple for the flat races. Worked for Eilish McColgan.

Potentially RE: coaching. A problem with Schumacher is he can be fairly hands off. Athletes can definitely work themselves to the point of injury under him and if you don't stop yourself/give yourself limits he isn't exactly going to stop you. Perhaps a workaholic like Quigley needs a coach to say "no that's enough for today, no bike workout/extra core/extra pilates, just relax." Sometimes if you give an athlete too much leash they hang themselves on it.

RE: flat races. Honestly, I think people forget Colleen has some serious flat track credentials. She's broke 8:30 for 3000m indoors! That's very impressive. She's beaten Houlihan in a 1500 and beaten Schweizer in a 3000m - AKA she's beaten the American record holders in their own events. Say what you like about her - that's impressive and very few people are capable of doing that, let alone have done that. Is it the right move? I'm not the one to ask, but I think she might do better than some folks would predict.

Ahh...Appreciate the insight into Jerry's coaching. Wasn't aware that he took that approach. I agree that coaches should intervene when an athlete keeps getting hurt. I wonder if swimming and Pilates ended up contributing to her body breaking down. You wouldn't think so, but...

Exactly! She's also faster than Coburn and Frerichs in the flats.

It would be interesting if she were to decide that making the olympic team in the 1500m would improve her marketability.

ssize_t wrote:

It would be interesting if she were to decide that making the olympic team in the 1500m would improve her marketability.

You're onto something there. Just wish she would have made the switch a few years earlier. She's got a 4:03 pr from 2018.

Good points about Jerry - now that it’s mentioned I remember on a podcast the BTC girls joking that Jerry barely talks to them lol. I do think that she will have a chip on her shoulder for Nike and will probably be more motivated to kick butt at the olympics. Nothing is better than showing them they made a mistake. I just hope it’s not too much change for her so close to trials.

emr0129 wrote:

LMW9 wrote:

Great posts, another perspective. Her agent bungled the whole situation and now she's under the gun. Hope she gets it all sorted soon.

Agreed - Something went wrong here. Personally I think she should have stayed with BTC. She is now training alone, instead of with the top American women in the country. She has no sponsor, and is trying to make deals just a few months out from trials (an already stressful time). This couldn't have panned out the way she wanted it to, I think something went wrong and now they're probably scrambling and if I had to bet, I'd say she's going to end up landing around where Nike did and she's out the best training partners and a good coach.

timing is everything--tough having a limited racing season last year with COVID, and then she couldn't parlay some quality but limited performances this year into a deal, and more importantly being without a coach and group 3 months prior to the trials...

another perspective wrote:

Perhaps a workaholic like Quigley needs a coach to say "no that's enough for today, no bike workout/extra core/extra pilates, just relax." Sometimes if you give an athlete too much leash they hang themselves on it.

For what it's worth, the rumor is that Jerry did try to hold her back due to her injury problems, but she resented not being able to do the same workouts as Shelby and Karissa. So I'm not sure she would have been receptive to the feedback you suggested.

heard through the grapevine. wrote:

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I'd be fascinated to the know the numbers:

a. What Nike offered

b. What she thinks she's worth

They offered her $150,000 and she wanted $250,000.

These numbers are too big! Leaving Nike w/o a new sponsor is stupid!

Wow. Really? Seems like he's more involved then that. I'm surprised.

She was off to a good start. Sucks she's injured again. I hope she can get it together soon as well.

What's more important, Chanceller of an University or a Head Football coach?

At her age at that.

Who is her agent?

I believe she is representing herself.