Select BTC Runners Chasing 10k Standards @ The TEN (2/20) - Official Discussion Thread

rojo wrote:

THat being said, this is a PERFECT example of how our sport is screwed. With no commissioner, everyone does exactly what's in their self interest. We have Footlocker. Rather than add a team component to it, Nike takes it for themselves.

Rather than have 1 10k that everyone goes to, we have to have two.

Advocating for central planning?

At the end of the day, this is 90% about Schumacher being a control freak. It's 10% about him being a rat basterd who wants to have advance knowledge of racing opportunities and as such gain an advantage over his competitors. Come on, Jerry - when you get paid $300k per year and have essentially bottomless resources you don't need to be a rat basterd.

If Jerry Schumacher were a hockey player he would be Brad Marchand.

The only thing certain about this race is that we should not 'Expect Great Things' from

Gwen or Chris, but maybe from King Ches.

There are other non-BTC folks running this too. Should be interesting. Hope most if not all can make the Oly standard.

If one can avoid going to TX, they should. After FL, my favorite state ... not.

TMADDDHASFNE wrote:

The only thing certain about this race is that we should not 'Expect Great Things' from

Gwen or Chris, but maybe from King Ches.

I think Gwen believes you can expect great things from her :)

This is kinda wack. Go actually do a race and stop with the team only time trials. BTC turning into the Floyd Mayweather of running. I hope all the runners from the Texas meet a week later come crash this thing on them and rain on their parade.

Obviously when I first posted, I did not know extreme weather was heading Texas' way...

You're right, as a fan it's great to have two 10ks on back to back weekends, but at the same time it's also infuriating because we see them constantly time trialing and controlling their own races in their own self interest, which again, I can understand a coach and athlete doing that.

But again, as a fan, we want to see all these big names COMPETE against each other on the same day outside of the trials/USAs. Usually great competition leads to fast times. Is it as controlled as Jerry's scenario at the sound event, absolutely not, but there is zero incentive for them to compete against others unless it's in a championship setting, so this time trial nonsense will continue. I'll drink bleach while others say they need to hit standards so it's all fine...

Sara Hall's recent IG post shows her family down on the SoCal beach at the Hotel del Coronado with a comment regarding "fast running."

May be nothing.

Or, it could mean she has bailed from the TX meet to run The TEN Saturday night.

Good news:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLdL8r7hE96/

BTC in process of setting up their own private Olympic Trials at Mt Sac and Olympics in Okinawa. Will send in times and pick up medals by 4%drone.

Why guess on Gwen J. is she'll run an underwhelming 32:45

*My guess on Gwen J. is she'll run an underwhelming 32:45 I also think Karissa will break 31min

RuningManJumpSuit wrote:

Why guess on Gwen J. is she'll run an underwhelming 32:45

I like more races instead of fewer. Big names are on a collision course in an Olympic (maybe) year. I don't have any issue if they don't actually faceoff until necessary - perhaps independent great performances even build tension.

I'm changing my Karissa prediction - I'm going big. I'm saying she get the American Record. 30:10

RuningManJumpSuit wrote:

*My guess on Gwen J. is she'll run an underwhelming 32:45

I also think Karissa will break 31min

RuningManJumpSuit wrote:

Why guess on Gwen J. is she'll run an underwhelming 32:45

She didn't look good in her most recent race. She will qualify but not break the record.

RuningManJumpSuit wrote:

I'm changing my Karissa prediction - I'm going big.

I'm saying she get the American Record. 30:10

RuningManJumpSuit wrote:

*My guess on Gwen J. is she'll run an underwhelming 32:45

I also think Karissa will break 31min

Projected pacing makes that 100% impossible. She’s a phenomenal athlete, but she’s not Ayana,

Gwen will probably do better because her first race at or after altitude is always a disaster. She's been at sea level longer now so she has no excuse.

Bowerman Track Cowards

Club motto: You don't want to find yourself in a race

Again its open entry at the Sound event, you blame BTC for other athletes deciding to race in texas instead. where is the logic?

A few of the athletes competing at the Texas meet said on the running rivals podcast they were looking more for 28 minute event and didn't want to chase standard at the sound meet. They decided to do a race catered to that end

This soundrunning race btc is doing wasn't a secret and is open entry. what exactly do you expect them to do to appease you?