Saucony is too woke.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

Forgot to add: switching to new balance because they only sponsor americans

oops.

dev ils advocate wrote:

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

Things that are good for society and running:

1. More people jogging and being healthier.

2. Getting to know your neighbors and community members through a shared activity.

3. Running companies making more money because they have more customers.

4. More people running and being interested in running.

5. The United States becoming more competitive in distance running by developing more talent in Black, Latinx, and Indigenous communities.

All that virtue is deafening

How is that virtue? Those are all measurable benefits from expanding participation in a healthy activity. More money, more feet in running shoes, healthier population, potentially more interest in the sport. Perhaps "getting to know people in your community" is virtue signaling but I have enjoyed meeting different people through running.

I feel like citing virtue signaling is a lazy way to shut down an argument. That's what I have observed about the usage of that phrase. It is essentially means nothing to me, similar to just calling someone racist rather than taking the effort to identify something that might exhibit racial bias and avoiding the lazy racist label.

It’s not. That poster clearly doesn’t know what virtue signaling is, he just doesn’t have a response that actually makes sense to use.

For one, I am not liberal. And I did not in fact call anyone racist. I simply suggested that if content related to racism on MLK is offensive to someone than they may be a racist. Seems reasonable.

Or maybe the person is not a fan of a person like MLK who lived a professional life and a very different personal life.

Maybe? Or maybe we can all read the OP and do not need to guess. Just calling it like I see it.

I think we all read his post. If somebody does not want to be bombarded with Trump material, are they anti-white? What if a shoe maker knows that you are gay and they send you propaganda about the accomplishments of straight people or maybe recommended reading about conversion therapy?

How do you equate MLK with Trump? Are you putting way too much thought into this. Sounding a bit racist here yourself. Look if you take offense to content to related to racism, ask yourself 'why does this trigger me'. Rather than spend time trying to justify to me why content related to racism is triggering you, it would be better to focus that energy on yourself.

Trump tried to create equality for all. He was successful in creating jobs and wealth for minorities. You should spend the day reading about him and watching documentaries. You don't seem open to seeing the world through a different lense.

No thanks, I'm good. I think I'll find some emails in my inbox to go online and complain about it. That seems reasonable, no?

ing win wrote:

Or maybe the person is not a fan of a person like MLK who lived a professional life and a very different personal life.

It’s more than “not being a fan” to be so triggered by an email from a shoe company.

sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:

dev ils advocate wrote:

All that virtue is deafening

How is that virtue? Those are all measurable benefits from expanding participation in a healthy activity. More money, more feet in running shoes, healthier population, potentially more interest in the sport. Perhaps "getting to know people in your community" is virtue signaling but I have enjoyed meeting different people through running.

I feel like citing virtue signaling is a lazy way to shut down an argument. That's what I have observed about the usage of that phrase. It is essentially means nothing to me, similar to just calling someone racist rather than taking the effort to identify something that might exhibit racial bias and avoiding the lazy racist label.

Well of course it’s just virtue signaling. Blanket statements that extol goodness but are in fact no more than paeans to an unattainable end state:

1. More people jogging and being healthier. - true, but face it, most people abhor jogging (or any physical activity) and indulge in unhealthy activities despite knowing the downside.

2. Getting to know your neighbors and community members through a shared activity. - most people don’t give a crapola about their neighbors. Doesn’t mean they mean them ill will - most are just plain wrapped up in themselves and their own lives.

3. Running companies making more money because they have more customers. - Running companies can do things to alienate many of their customers by picking sides.

4. More people running and being interested in running. - see number one

5. The United States becoming more competitive in distance running by developing more talent in Black, Latinx, and Indigenous communities. - the blacks and indigenous communities have ample ability to get involved in distance running but choose not to. Latinos are more adequately represented (Desi, German, Brenda, that woman steepler whose name escapes me, etc)

Never tried saucony, always put off by the terrible colours. New Balance much better (Y).

Boo hoo

Saucony hurt my fweelings ?

Suck it up snowflakes.

Why do Democrats have so little sympathy for people getting their feelings hurt? Where is your compassion? Bullying is not a nice thing.

Thank you to the OP. Reading this really tuned me in to the burden of being a white male. Having to use your finger to not only scroll to, but also click on the "Delete" button on an email that does not interest you is truly hard. This might even happen more than once each day. Furthermore, in the time it takes for you to delete that "not-interested-in" email, you might even be exposed to resource that might expand your knowledge and make you a better human.

I too am a white male. Thanks to this thread, I am now forced to ask myself, when will it end??

ing win wrote:

Why do Democrats have so little sympathy for people getting their feelings hurt? Where is your compassion? Bullying is not a nice thing.

Good point. We could start a whole thread on Gimi types complaining about a Ben Shapiro speech. All because their feelings were hurt.

JustSmokeIt wrote:

Today’s email Honoring Martin Luther King Jr. day shouldn’t have come as a surprise. But the suggestion of what to read, including: How To Be An Antiracist, So You Want To Talk About Race along with others, suggestion of what to watch: Black Panther, I Am Not Your Negro, along with others, Who To Follow: NAACP, Check Your Privilege, along with others was just a bit much for me.

Usually when I receive an email with recommendations on topics that don't interest me, particularly via a mailing list from some company I have purchased a product from unrelated to the topic, I ignore it and move on.

I had no idea this could be so overwhelmingly burdensome for others. I'm shocked you can navigate day-to-day life.

breit leit wrote:

JustSmokeIt wrote:

Today’s email Honoring Martin Luther King Jr. day shouldn’t have come as a surprise. But the suggestion of what to read, including: How To Be An Antiracist, So You Want To Talk About Race along with others, suggestion of what to watch: Black Panther, I Am Not Your Negro, along with others, Who To Follow: NAACP, Check Your Privilege, along with others was just a bit much for me.

Usually when I receive an email with recommendations on topics that don't interest me, particularly via a mailing list from some company I have purchased a product from unrelated to the topic, I ignore it and move on.

I had no idea this could be so overwhelmingly burdensome for others. I'm shocked you can navigate day-to-day life.

Except many liberals don't. Matter of fact, they relentlessly attack the company with the usual "racist, xenophobic, misogynist...."

The problem isn't always the message. It's the messenger. X message put out. Ok. Liberals: You BETTER listen, like it, and follow in step or we will shut you down and destroy you.