Christian Coleman facing a possible suspension for 3 missed tests

Kevin Hadsell wrote:

Everyone deserves a second chance.

Wouldn’t this be AT LEAST his 4th missed test?

He’s deserves to be suspended at the very least for being an idiot. Target on his back and gets in this predicament. He will not be invited to the next Mensa picnic.

This is such crap. Anyone who knows anything about track knows the top sprinter in the world is tested myriad times. No athlete benefits from an ad hoc drug programme of a day here and there (except stims, which aren't proscribed out of conpetition). The whole whereabouts introduction was simply an effort to introduce credibility to the drugs testing bodies, and you guys lap it up because he's there to be shot at. If he were taking anything remotely enabling of 9.7, he'd test positive; not get busted for Christmas shopping.

I am firmly of the opinion that the will of drug testing bodies to survive (in conjunction with pundits who love controversy) that has ruined this sport. If drugs in sport were really the problem, you'd have few idols left. It's the insulation of drug taking that's the problem.

Also, have any white athletes fallen foul of the whereabouts rule?

I could have bet money on them shooting for Coleman, or another high profile person of colour. And before you complain about the race card, educate me through my sincere question.

LDoc wrote:

Also, have any white athletes fallen foul of the whereabouts rule?

I could have bet money on them shooting for Coleman, or another high profile person of colour. And before you complain about the race card, educate me through my sincere question.

Don’t be a moron. Plenty of people get tested a lot more then Coleman and don’t have a problem with missing tests.

I follow MMA and Nick Diaz got a whereabouts suspension.

LDoc wrote:

This is such crap. Anyone who knows anything about track knows the top sprinter in the world is tested myriad times. No athlete benefits from an ad hoc drug programme of a day here and there (except stims, which aren't proscribed out of conpetition). The whole whereabouts introduction was simply an effort to introduce credibility to the drugs testing bodies, and you guys lap it up because he's there to be shot at. If he were taking anything remotely enabling of 9.7, he'd test positive; not get busted for Christmas shopping.

I am firmly of the opinion that the will of drug testing bodies to survive (in conjunction with pundits who love controversy) that has ruined this sport. If drugs in sport were really the problem, you'd have few idols left. It's the insulation of drug taking that's the problem.

Finally, the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics: I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. But this is one hell of a race. This is a great sporting event and you should stand around and believe it. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets — this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it. So Vive le Tour forever!

LDoc wrote:

This is such crap. Anyone who knows anything about track knows the top sprinter in the world is tested myriad times. No athlete benefits from an ad hoc drug programme of a day here and there (except stims, which aren't proscribed out of conpetition). The whole whereabouts introduction was simply an effort to introduce credibility to the drugs testing bodies, and you guys lap it up because he's there to be shot at. If he were taking anything remotely enabling of 9.7, he'd test positive; not get busted for Christmas shopping.

I am firmly of the opinion that the will of drug testing bodies to survive (in conjunction with pundits who love controversy) that has ruined this sport. If drugs in sport were really the problem, you'd have few idols left. It's the insulation of drug taking that's the problem.

I am firmly of the opinion that drug cheats have ruined this sport.

Half the 'idols' in sprinting have served a drugs ban for testing positive and then come back to win medals and smear the name of the athletics.

ex-runner wrote:

I am firmly of the opinion that drug cheats have ruined this sport.

Half the 'idols' in sprinting have served a drugs ban for testing positive and then come back to win medals and smear the name of the athletics.

Well...what do expect when a twice-banned guy like Gatlin is still around competing. C'mon...a 37 yr old with a doping history taking silver at last year's World Championships. Lol. That's so laughable it should have been annulled based on the circumstances. This event seems to one that doping is tolerated as it's become nothing but a freakshow with a benevolent approach to the few that actually get caught.

NativeSon wrote:

missed another one in December wrote:

Wow. He narrowly escaped a ban last summer but then apparently missed another one.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/news/world-100m-champion-coleman-facing-ban/6d54012a-07ef-4e7e-ba74-29c24b5e751e?ocid=Social-WWOS

Editor's Note: We changed the title of the thread to reflect that Coleman has not been officially suspended yet.

When I saw it, I thought I was reading an old story.

This is unbelievable. He escaped it early last year and now, he did it again.

Whatever the case/reason, this is just careless!

HOW CARELESS CAN ONE BE?

When you're glowing a missed test looks better than a positive one. Being an idiot is a lot better for pr than microdosing epo or another ped.

By letting this slide it would set an example of how to dope and get away with it.

Just blame the testers and claim to have been "nearby" while never actually staying where you reported you'd be during the testing window. Ask the testers not to call and complain when they don't and make it sound like the testers are lazy for not finding you, when in reality it's your job to make yourself available.

Shouldn't be that easy?

Sprintgeezer wrote:

What we need wrote:

Here we go again....paging sprintgeezer

I’m here, simmering.

I’ve laid it all out here, in thousands of posts. I don’t trust CC, I never have. No human has ever yet run a wind-legal 9.80-or-below cleanly. Or even below 9.84.

Or if you don’t like Bailey-Galea and others like Vicaut-Wohlfahrt or the slew of 9.87/9.88 dirty guys, then maybe 9.86 Lewis.

Most likely a bunch of 1-off low 9.9x guys with good wind have been the fastest ever, guys like Smith and CL.

Just look at the times all-around in the 1984 L.A. games...look what got into the semi’s and the final...and even that was after Wells.

I have never trusted CC. Never.

Sprintgeezer,

Bear with me if I am asking things you've covered before but do you trust Usain Bolt?

What about Yohan Blake?

You can also throw in SAF Pryce and Carmelita Jeter.

dullard wrote:

I love it! This dude is as dirty as a nightclub toilet. Bring on the ban hammer!!

Ha ha ha ha!

Only on letsrun. Ha ha ha!

El Keniano wrote:

He's American, ergo he'll get off, easy. But it's worrying how, even with such shennanigans indicating possible widespread sophisticated doping cat and mouse in wealthier countries, almost no one ever tests positive. Testing in Western Europe and North America is a useless venture.

El K,

Your buddy Coevett hasn't seen this thread.

I can bet a hundred shillings that he hasn't seen it. If he had, he'd have commented.

Ha ha ha ha!

ex-runner wrote:

It's not every hour. It's one hour.

I haven't read all of the details and maybe misunderstood something.

I thought he had to provide a calendar of where he would be on certain days.

Then they could show up with a random test where he was on a given day, maybe within a reasonable time frame.

Are you saying that he said he would be home on that day during that hour and he wasn't?

Or is it more like, he'd be home for the month of December and the testers can come by randomly between 3 and 4 pm on any day that month?

I guess I need it spelled out. I'm going to read all of the documents.

rojo wrote:

webby wrote:

Remember when his dad came here and attacked us all for daring to suggest that there was anything fishy about missing 3 tests in a year -- even if technically legal?

Well, we want to know more facts but we are tenatively siding with Coleman on this one. I'm sorry, you don't ban the Olympic favorite in the 100m without even attempting to call him.

Here is our article on the matter, but the authorities ADMIT they didn't even try to call him. Why?

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2020/06/worlds-fastest-man-may-face-an-olympic-ban-for-missing-yet-another-drug-test/

Article has some terrible takes. It clearly says they DO NOT HAVE TO CALL. This could tip athletes off to be able to cheat the test. Just because he received calls previous times, does not me he is entitled to receive them every time if that's not the rules. He should know the rules as part of his job. The part about them being at the wrong house, might be true, and if that's the case then he needs to be cleared. If I were one of these athletes and my 1 hour window was at home, I'd be damn sure I had doorbell camera of some sort to be able to prove if the tests showed up or not. Or the Testers need to have a recording of them knocking as well for definitive proof. Until that happens, there's always a chance that there could be a bad faith tester that goes to the wrong house on purpose, or even accidentally. But the phone call excuse is a terrible take.

What if he had camera around his home showing no authorities at his home ?

Star wrote:

ex-runner wrote:

It's not every hour. It's one hour.

I haven't read all of the details and maybe misunderstood something.

I thought he had to provide a calendar of where he would be on certain days.

Then they could show up with a random test where he was on a given day, maybe within a reasonable time frame.

Are you saying that he said he would be home on that day during that hour and he wasn't?

Or is it more like, he'd be home for the month of December and the testers can come by randomly between 3 and 4 pm on any day that month?

I guess I need it spelled out. I'm going to read all of the documents.

60-Minute Window

Any athlete who is in the USADA RTP must provide a specific 60-minute time slot every day between 5 a.m. – 11 p.m. that anchors the athlete to a specific location. The athlete chooses the 60-minute time slot to fit their schedule and must be available and accessible for testing at the specific location during the entire 60-minute time slot. Please note that USADA can choose to, and does, test athletes outside of the their 60-minute window.

Dear Mr Tester, at 5am every day, I'll be in bed. Thanks. x

SAFP and Blake have tested positive. Jeter and Bolt were outrageous.

Trust in their integrity, not for a second. I do trust, in a limited way, guys like Bromell, CL, Thompson, AHSB—but sprinters are an odd lot. It’s a “when in Rome” sort of thing. You pick and choose who to trust, and how far.

But I really don’t trust CC. Why? Sub-9.84 is the big one. Also, demeanor. Same as Dasaolu, Kilty, etc. Look at how CC is handling all of this, letting his hired gun fight it out. Yes as a lawyer you want to keep your client under control so that they don’t shoot themselves in the foot, but such conduct does not engender trust.

If he was gone for the entirety of the 60 minutes that he had allocated, for the fourth time in like a year and a half, I have little sympathy for him and he needs to be suspended, phone call or not.