I figure that Seth gave his Rowan teammates the scoop of the situation but for (probably legal) reasons they are not allowed to disclose what he told them to the public. This is why you see them all arguing in his favor and bashing allegations that they are trying to call "defamation". Claims of "providing false info" among similar wording because they obviously know something we don't. It's not defamation of SC if it cannot be confirmed or denied. And the Rowan athletes need to understand this because the public doesn't know what they know and obviously none of them besides the "whistleblower" are going to speak out because who on their team want to turn on their fellow "National Champions"?
Whatever they say on social media to combat the negative media will go nowhere because of this. Only concrete proof of innocence/guilt or a SC testimonial will solve this and I do not see either happening. Hopefully the OPRA can give some answers.
One of the Sarh explanations verified by several people was that he let his Kenyan teammate use his car and when he got in a hit and run he was kicked off the team
Bera, who has a hit and run on record remained on the team
He was kicked off the team because someone else used his car? And this all happened immediately after he has the race of his life? And the best he can do, in the wake that performance, is to transfer to a D3 commuter school? Of course that conveniently ignores all of the testimony of his ex-teammates as well as the leaked video as well as his Mom's admission that he used a banned peptide to recover faster.
Apparently they posted about it on Instagram too; mana Clevenger was not happy in the comments even though she was the one that allegedly narc’d him out
God that's pathetic, a 50-ish-year-old woman arguing with a student newspaper on Instagram.
I'm glad she commented. Now people can ask her questions in the comments espectially since she declined to comment on the Letsrun article despite being given the chance to do so.
Noah in particular is an interesting story. He's not from NJ; he's from PA, which means out-of-state tuition. He jumped 6'6" in high school; I find it very hard to believe that his best choice was to pay out-of-state tuition to go to a D3 school. No one in their right mind would choose Rowan purely for academic reasons, but if that's the best school he could have gotten into, I have to wonder why he wouldn't choose similarly non-rigorous schools in the PSAC where he would have gotten both in-state tuition and a partial scholarship.
The academics of Rowan have been called into question multiple times on these threads so I decided to look them up. It looks like according to US News and World Report they are tied with LSU, Ole Miss, and Alabama and are ahead of a bunch of Power 4 schools like Arkansas, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. Definitely didn't see any PSAC schools schools ahead of them. So whatever the case is on why he or the other athletes are there this argument against them doesn't seem to hold up.
Noah in particular is an interesting story. He's not from NJ; he's from PA, which means out-of-state tuition. He jumped 6'6" in high school; I find it very hard to believe that his best choice was to pay out-of-state tuition to go to a D3 school. No one in their right mind would choose Rowan purely for academic reasons, but if that's the best school he could have gotten into, I have to wonder why he wouldn't choose similarly non-rigorous schools in the PSAC where he would have gotten both in-state tuition and a partial scholarship.
The academics of Rowan have been called into question multiple times on these threads so I decided to look them up. It looks like according to US News and World Report they are tied with LSU, Ole Miss, and Alabama and are ahead of a bunch of Power 4 schools like Arkansas, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. Definitely didn't see any PSAC schools schools ahead of them. So whatever the case is on why he or the other athletes are there this argument against them doesn't seem to hold up.
...I mean, I don't think anyone thinks of LSU or Alabama or Texas Tech as academic powerhouses, my man.
Maybe you think you're making a better point than you are. But I doubt it.
Noah in particular is an interesting story. He's not from NJ; he's from PA, which means out-of-state tuition. He jumped 6'6" in high school; I find it very hard to believe that his best choice was to pay out-of-state tuition to go to a D3 school. No one in their right mind would choose Rowan purely for academic reasons, but if that's the best school he could have gotten into, I have to wonder why he wouldn't choose similarly non-rigorous schools in the PSAC where he would have gotten both in-state tuition and a partial scholarship.
The academics of Rowan have been called into question multiple times on these threads so I decided to look them up. It looks like according to US News and World Report they are tied with LSU, Ole Miss, and Alabama and are ahead of a bunch of Power 4 schools like Arkansas, Oklahoma State, and Texas Tech. Definitely didn't see any PSAC schools schools ahead of them. So whatever the case is on why he or the other athletes are there this argument against them doesn't seem to hold up.
Interesting update pertaining to Rowan academics since your post.
I think he made his point. There are about 6000 colleges in the US. Rowan is probably in the upper 10% of all of them. Average ACT is 26. The average at Wingate is 22. The average at Adam's State is 20. UW Lacrosse is 25. Wartburg is 23.
isn't a forced transfer to the armpit of new jersey punishment enough? what else do you cruel cruel bastards want, to make him go to rutgers-camden? have some humaneness........
generally speaking, rowan is just "ok." you're in the crappy philly suburbs of NJ, slightly above average academics but wouldn't make the top 50 as a LAC, high tuition for a state school and low percent need met on financial aid.
like, in state rowan costs about what SUNY cortland does out of state. and then covers half of financial aid need, which is horrific. it's not BYU or some cheap southern or interior west state school. NJ state schools cost almost what a cheap private does.
nah, i think it comes down to his hometown is NJ, it's a gigantic d3 (20k+), and it's a relatively easy admissions school with a competitive nationals level running team. like going to ithaca, wartburg, or a WIAC. although i have a feeling wartburg would pick up the phone and call their fellow iowa college down the road and ask questions. heck, when anyone top 10 at nuttycombe transfers d3 some questions should get asked.
and rowan, in turn, is willing to take a national trophy with an asterix on it. the reality of such things is if USC wins a national football title, you are probably long gone with your shirts and caps and ring before they settle the reggie bush issues and "take it back."
generally speaking, rowan is just "ok." you're in the crappy philly suburbs of NJ, slightly above average academics but wouldn't make the top 50 as a LAC, high tuition for a state school and low percent need met on financial aid.
like, in state rowan costs about what SUNY cortland does out of state. and then covers half of financial aid need, which is horrific. it's not BYU or some cheap southern or interior west state school. NJ state schools cost almost what a cheap private does.
nah, i think it comes down to his hometown is NJ, it's a gigantic d3 (20k+), and it's a relatively easy admissions school with a competitive nationals level running team. like going to ithaca, wartburg, or a WIAC. although i have a feeling wartburg would pick up the phone and call their fellow iowa college down the road and ask questions. heck, when anyone top 10 at nuttycombe transfers d3 some questions should get asked.
and rowan, in turn, is willing to take a national trophy with an asterix on it. the reality of such things is if USC wins a national football title, you are probably long gone with your shirts and caps and ring before they settle the reggie bush issues and "take it back."
This and the fact that he and his mom already knew the coaching staff from his brother and she facilitated this whole transfer as quietly as possible...until the whole thing blew up.
(1) if it's borrowing a car or an accident/hit and run in the stadium lot, and bera is the one borrowing the car with the ticket, why are these l7 other guys suspended?
(2) why isn't bera then in trouble?
(3) what would merit such a suspension?
i mean, if you're trying to tell me it's not drugs, it was "something." the alternative theory, or at least the public facts about that ticket, don't explain who all gets suspended (or not). bera is still running. if bera is driving, why would passengers, or car lenders, or people not in the car, get suspended?
even if i accepted something else happened, you're still hiding what it was.
at which point TWO why is dude treated like a pariah who has to sneak back home to an unquestioning d3. he would not be blackballed out of d1 for lending a car. if that's it. (he also wouldn't be suspended, let's be real). if they were drinking beers in that car, he might never run iowa state again, but he fesses up, says he will get help, and then has endless takers probably. no blackball.
One of the Sarh explanations verified by several people was that he let his Kenyan teammate use his car and when he got in a hit and run he was kicked off the team
Bera, who has a hit and run on record remained on the team
He was kicked off the team because someone else used his car? And this all happened immediately after he has the race of his life? And the best he can do, in the wake that performance, is to transfer to a D3 commuter school? Of course that conveniently ignores all of the testimony of his ex-teammates as well as the leaked video as well as his Mom's admission that he used a banned peptide to recover faster.
So, yeah, alright.
I heard this from a guy on the team, and then some friends who sprinted in the NJAC were told this by the sprinters at Rowan
I was able to find a record of Bera's arrest and bail posted before but I cannot track it down now
Iowa State cross country athlete Robin Kwemoi Bera was arrested on Oct. 22 after a warrant was issued for his arrest. The warrant was issued on Sept. 30 after earlier in the month. Bera was charged with “leaving scene of traffic accident — vehicle damage only.” Teammate Joash Ruto posted a $300 bond and Bera was released into his custody the next day. Bera’s first court appearance is set for 8:30 a.m. on Nov. 3. The arrest happened just four days before Iowa State confirmed multiple athletes on the men’s team had been suspended for the season. Iowa State men’s cross country team has ranked No. 1 all season in the USTFCCCA coaches poll. Iowa State senior associate athletic director Nick Joos stated that any discipline for the arrest would be handled internally. Joos did not comment on the arrest’s relation to recent team suspensions. Link in bio for the full article
His bail was $300 but he wasn't arrested until October 22nd
This would have been two days before the original letsrun post
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't there have been more charges, like driving without documentation and not just a hit and run if Seth's story was true
also is there not some omnibus theory possible? i know friends and family who have gotten in accidents and their car was searched after.
A loans car to B. B gets in a wreck. B's wreck or behavior in front of the campus cops is sufficiently goofy they make him do a sobriety test and search A's car for drugs and alcohol. during the search they find something. that something gets A and 6 others suspended.
B was unaware. B doesn't own the car, the stuff, and nothing about it makes B look bad. B just had a wreck. B is still running for ISU.
a lot of the alternate scenarios i can think of don't work, because B would have been in trouble too. B was drinking and driving -- it's not in the ticket. B hit and ran -- not in the ticket and he'd get team discipline. B was chauffeuring the rest who were drinking -- he'd have gotten a different ticket and in trouble with the group.
nah, if this is about the car and all connected, then B has to be somehow innocent but does something that draws attention to the rest. because B still runs there and went unpunished.
No need to expound different theories at this point. We quite literally know it was peptide BPC-157 from four ex-teammates accounts + the mother's email. Now a teammate's account of EPO vials in the fridge plus an EPO order in the gmail inbox is an entirely different story, but it's punishment for EPO and BPC-157 is the same. It's similar Al Capone going down for tax evasion.
other scenario, the 2 things are separate, and just the parents' idea of a fairness argument. "you didn't prove anything about my boy, and meanwhile this other kid did a hit and run, even got a ticket for it, and he's still running."
No need to expound different theories at this point. We quite literally know it was peptide BPC-157 from four ex-teammates accounts + the mother's email. Now a teammate's account of EPO vials in the fridge plus an EPO order in the gmail inbox is an entirely different story, but it's punishment for EPO and BPC-157 is the same. It's similar Al Capone going down for tax evasion.
We may soon lock this thread if it is just a few people posting back and forth to one another. Threads are not meant for 2 people to insult one another