We don't need a million thread on this topic. We like one thread per topic. We merged several others into this thread including one called "Alex Pretti was a deranged lunatic." and one called "New York Times reports that Pretti attacked ICE cars 11 days before his death" and one called "LeBron James: Why hasn't he commented on the Alex Pretti killing?"
Facts. 90%+ of them are on government assistance too. Losers! Fraud likely. Investigations needed. Love those new SNAP rules, 20 hours of work or volunteering a week to keep said benefits. Free rides over.
But you approve of Mr Trump giving 28 million Venezuela's a "free rjde". Oil proceeds go to a bank in Qatar controlled by Rubio.
I saw it for the first time on CNN. The ICE officer on the right has already taken away his gun at 10s (slow motion video), not 16s. He never attempted to reach to his gun. They killed him after he was disarmed.
i am not disputing that LEO took his gun, in this amazing video you can actually see the slide go back as the LEO NDs the gun. I dont know if this was the first shot, but we know the LEOs had already taken the decisoin to disengage in order to potentially fire.
I dont knwo what AP was reaching for, or what he had in his hand when he was being shot. it may well have been a phone. However it shows from the LEO standpoint that they knew he was armed and they knew he ws reaching for his holster area and they saw a black object in his hand.
edit, shout out to my fellow countryman for using the correct abbreviation; ND not AD. Its negigent, not accidental.
There have certainly been some issues surrounding the SIG p320. I personally would not trust that gun, but more than likely it was an ND. Even so, this dude made not just one wrong move to get himself killed, but several.
i am not disputing that LEO took his gun, in this amazing video you can actually see the slide go back as the LEO NDs the gun. I dont know if this was the first shot, but we know the LEOs had already taken the decisoin to disengage in order to potentially fire.
I dont knwo what AP was reaching for, or what he had in his hand when he was being shot. it may well have been a phone. However it shows from the LEO standpoint that they knew he was armed and they knew he ws reaching for his holster area and they saw a black object in his hand.
edit, shout out to my fellow countryman for using the correct abbreviation; ND not AD. Its negigent, not accidental.
There have certainly been some issues surrounding the SIG p320. I personally would not trust that gun, but more than likely it was an ND. Even so, this dude made not just one wrong move to get himself killed, but several.
You’re bad faith poster, reported as I emailed a rojo about you
The victim never attempted to reach his holster area. Throughout the entire interaction with the ICE officers he held his mobile phone in his right hand. He was still holding it after he was shot.
We can agree and disagree on this one depending on perspective. i agree that he was probab ly holding his phone when he was shot, however others may have been unsighted.
He was on all fours when the shooter took the decision to pull his gun. the other LEOs then disengage. at the same time another LEO takes his gun. APs hand goes down and to the right, which is towards his holster area and the shooter fires.
It looks like the shooter could a) have possible have seen that the holster was empty, but APs jacket was flying around and b) not been able to see APs right hand clearly due again to the jacket. But maybe shooter had already opened fire or taken the decision to open fire and these two points are irrelevant - probably.
In this confusion when you cant see his hands, when he is acting violently, when you dont know where the gun is but you know there is one - boom.
The SJW went to the protest carrying a gun and an extra loaded magazine. He did not bring his ID or his gun license/permit. That sets off alarm bells. He was up to no good, and even the angry parents of this virtue-signaling man-child warned him about doing stupid things… he sure looks like a typical anti-American social agitator one could say:
?? ?? ?? ?? ???? The parents of Alex Jeffrey Pretti, the 37-year-old shot by federal agents in Minneapolis on Saturday, had urged him to “not do anything stupid” while protesting.
He wasn't protesting. He was interfering. There was no protest going on. Only him and his loaded gun. If he was protesting peacefully on the sidewalk no one would have even noticed him. He sought confrontation with ICE.
Facts. Agitator. Likely paid, meagerly. LOL. "What do you do for work", *Oh, I protest for $100 cash daily and sometimes a sandwich or pizza! Losers! A protester stands in one area or marches with Little signs and usually chants or sings songs. That is peaceful protesting. What this Balding man was doing was causing trouble. Shame.
Same with ICE getting $100 bucks a slice of pizza. Bonus a shiny badge and gun.
He went to High School in Green Bay. He played football, baseball, and ran track. He was a Boy Scout. He sang in the Green Bay boy’s choir. He was an intensive care nurse. He worked at the VA Hospital. He was the best of us. They murdered him.
There have certainly been some issues surrounding the SIG p320. I personally would not trust that gun, but more than likely it was an ND. Even so, this dude made not just one wrong move to get himself killed, but several.
You’re bad faith poster, reported as I emailed a rojo about you
What are you talking about? I only post under my own name. If what I post makes you cry, why not register a name and block me?
The victim never attempted to reach his holster area. Throughout the entire interaction with the ICE officers he held his mobile phone in his right hand. He was still holding it after he was shot.
We can agree and disagree on this one depending on perspective. i agree that he was probab ly holding his phone when he was shot, however others may have been unsighted.
He was on all fours when the shooter took the decision to pull his gun. the other LEOs then disengage. at the same time another LEO takes his gun. APs hand goes down and to the right, which is towards his holster area and the shooter fires.
It looks like the shooter could a) have possible have seen that the holster was empty, but APs jacket was flying around and b) not been able to see APs right hand clearly due again to the jacket. But maybe shooter had already opened fire or taken the decision to open fire and these two points are irrelevant - probably.
In this confusion when you cant see his hands, when he is acting violently, when you dont know where the gun is but you know there is one - boom.
Someone saw the gun and called it out. The other sees the guys hand moving around his pocket and something in his hand and shoots. Guy should have listened to his parents and not engaged with officers (especially while armed). The protestors are creating chaos and confusion. It’s a fools errand to try to impede these arrests. The truth is agitators want events like this to take place. They’ll treat him as a martyr for a week and then forget about him. The whole thing is just a big circus.
We can agree and disagree on this one depending on perspective. i agree that he was probab ly holding his phone when he was shot, however others may have been unsighted.
He was on all fours when the shooter took the decision to pull his gun. the other LEOs then disengage. at the same time another LEO takes his gun. APs hand goes down and to the right, which is towards his holster area and the shooter fires.
It looks like the shooter could a) have possible have seen that the holster was empty, but APs jacket was flying around and b) not been able to see APs right hand clearly due again to the jacket. But maybe shooter had already opened fire or taken the decision to open fire and these two points are irrelevant - probably.
In this confusion when you cant see his hands, when he is acting violently, when you dont know where the gun is but you know there is one - boom.
Someone saw the gun and called it out. The other sees the guys hand moving around his pocket and something in his hand and shoots. Guy should have listened to his parents and not engaged with officers (especially while armed). The protestors are creating chaos and confusion. It’s a fools errand to try to impede these arrests. The truth is agitators want events like this to take place. They’ll treat him as a martyr for a week and then forget about him. The whole thing is just a big circus.
We can agree and disagree on this one depending on perspective. i agree that he was probab ly holding his phone when he was shot, however others may have been unsighted.
He was on all fours when the shooter took the decision to pull his gun. the other LEOs then disengage. at the same time another LEO takes his gun. APs hand goes down and to the right, which is towards his holster area and the shooter fires.
It looks like the shooter could a) have possible have seen that the holster was empty, but APs jacket was flying around and b) not been able to see APs right hand clearly due again to the jacket. But maybe shooter had already opened fire or taken the decision to open fire and these two points are irrelevant - probably.
In this confusion when you cant see his hands, when he is acting violently, when you dont know where the gun is but you know there is one - boom.
Someone saw the gun and called it out. The other sees the guys hand moving around his pocket and something in his hand and shoots. Guy should have listened to his parents and not engaged with officers (especially while armed). The protestors are creating chaos and confusion. It’s a fools errand to try to impede these arrests. The truth is agitators want events like this to take place. They’ll treat him as a martyr for a week and then forget about him. The whole thing is just a big circus.
Joe, why didn’t you lie and say that he pulled his gun on ICE?
i am not disputing that LEO took his gun, in this amazing video you can actually see the slide go back as the LEO NDs the gun. I dont know if this was the first shot, but we know the LEOs had already taken the decisoin to disengage in order to potentially fire.
I dont knwo what AP was reaching for, or what he had in his hand when he was being shot. it may well have been a phone. However it shows from the LEO standpoint that they knew he was armed and they knew he ws reaching for his holster area and they saw a black object in his hand.
edit, shout out to my fellow countryman for using the correct abbreviation; ND not AD. Its negigent, not accidental.
There have certainly been some issues surrounding the SIG p320. I personally would not trust that gun, but more than likely it was an ND. Even so, this dude made not just one wrong move to get himself killed, but several.
“We had this discussion with him two weeks ago or so, you know, that go ahead and protest, but do not engage, do not do anything stupid, basically,”
After killing you, the government will immediately issue a statement calling you a "terrorist", while an army of e-ghouls digs into every aspect of your life to mock you and portray you as unworthy of life. There's something especially chilling about this last part, how the regime goes on punishing you even after it's taken your life.
A physician who witnessed the murder of Alex Pretti, and attempted to provide medical aid, stated that Pretti had at least three bullet wounds in his back. Video analysis by news outlets also indicated that at least one agent shot Alex Pretti in his back while he was on the ground. THIS WAS WITHOUT A DOUBT MURDER IN THE FIRST DEGREE. When you shot an unarmed man in the back, while he's laying flat on his face — that's considered an execution, not "self-defense."
He went to High School in Green Bay. He played football, baseball, and ran track. He was a Boy Scout. He sang in the Green Bay boy’s choir. He was an intensive care nurse. He worked at the VA Hospital. He was the best of us. They murdered him.
Surrounded by 7 or 8 agents, in a public street.
Pushed down, weapon taken away, hands raised up,
Face down on the ground, shot in the back, more than 10 times.
The SJW went to the protest carrying a gun and an extra loaded magazine. He did not bring his ID or his gun license/permit. That sets off alarm bells. He was up to no good, and even the angry parents of this virtue-signaling man-child warned him about doing stupid things… he sure looks like a typical anti-American social agitator one could say:
No id or gun license? presumably that is highly illegal and will go to intent. what is your source for this please?
@joedirt, nice post. the leftist lunatics also want these deaths. oddly enough the people saying he deserved it or whatnot are probably the people who least want these confrontations.
@do better please; Joe doesnt say that because its untrue and unnecessary. also, i beleive they werent ice.
@toe jam at a point where you believe a violently resisting prep is armed, resisting arrest, in close proximity and you cant see both his hands and his weapon completely clearly, it makes little difference in most cases to shoot him in the back. stop watching westerns and cheap war movies. There is plenty of precedent for this. actually, now i think about it, the possibility that he might not have been able to see his hand, but could see an empty holster is a new level of justification....
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