MIAC 2025 XC

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Bron the goat bro pack it up. Can't beat 40k points 10k assists 10k rebounds. He's 6'10 and moves like a 6'6 guard. Brons nut is even playing in the league bro.

Throwback to Goblin Gangster Mode, maybe Buffalo Nickel's funniest post this season

Thank you, thank you.

Speaking of dumb things, I love how Mac refuses to call the Ole JV race by the stupid ACEMR name Chunko uses and instead just call it the Cannon River Closer in all their info, just like the women's program does. Naming a race in memorial after someone still living may be the most distasteful and disrespectful thing Chunko has done. Especially given that he pretty much tanked Arne's career.

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you mean 6'7?

oh buddy, you have much to learn about the oles

Lol I got THE Steven A. Smith payin attention now. Love the back and fourth on this thread, especially when it's not completely trash talk. We not going to agree on the MIAC goat convo and that's alright lol, I have no problem disagreeing. Tbh I got no problem with Mo training with MDE: a rising tide raises all boats, and this has certainly helped the MIAC on the front end. I will defend the best coach in the MIAC by saying he is pretty good at recruiting, considering he was the one who got me and Mop (Will Kelly) to St. Olaf. In fact, I probably wouldn't have gone to St. Olaf had Power not been the coach, that's how much I liked him on my visit. It does have to be the right fit though. Also, I wouldn't say neither Deaver, nor Gael, nor even Turlington or really any of those guys were top recruits. Torty was only a 9:46 guy I believe, and Gael and Deaver were not very impressive coming out of high school. To be honest if you would have told me that that class would have been good, not a chance I would have agreed, but look at what turned out. I really don't think that the recruiting classes have been that good from the Ian Curtis and Will Kelly class all the way until now. But we can debate on that.

Finally, I was impressed with Hootie and with Stencel as well. They have turned into very solid runners, and I am intruiged to see what they will do at Regionals. I do hope that there can be some success from the MIAC at the Regional and National Level, as I always hated it when people forgot abot the tuff mfs in Minnesota. Gotta run with a chip on the shoulder though... those WIAC boys don't like giving it out for free @Kevin Montressor.

Enlighten us Skemp, what is a good recruiting class? You seem to be chopping the Oles and the their recruiting but are saying you're not. The Oles have had more talent fall into their lap then they know what to do with. All-MIAC guys runners running their JV meet tonight. RIP the Karhu.

On a different note, let's not forget Hootie ran 4:16. He is uber talented. It's good to see him running at the level he is capable of without having Graber or other top guys to train with. Maybe Mo can swing by Arden Hills a few days a week next Fall. And Stencel ran 4:26/9:47 and Kaluza 4:25 which puts them as one of the top Johnnie recruits duos ever.

St. Peter is a better recruit than either Kaluza or Stencel. He ran 1:57/4:24/9:41 and had relay splits that make your jaw drop.

Let's not forget that Brauer ran 1:55/4:22/9:47. He had a rough MIAC, but the man is buzzin for a fast race. And having the full fall of training makes him the early favorite for the mile/1000 double.

Well Mr. Smith, it could be because I am from the land where the WIAC is dominant, but I have seen quite a few sub 4:20 and sub 9:10 guys go to UW-LAX over the past few years. I usually think that if you are a sub 9:40 guy and a sub 4:25 guy that you are what I would call a good D3 recruit. Put together 2-3 of those guys and you have yourself a good class. I also don't really look at 800 times so I couldn't really tell you what a good high school time is there. Granted, I think that you got to look at the full picture. For example, I ran 9:34 3200 in high school off of 40 miles or less per week, which isn't outstanding, but still good. The thing I will say though is that is you can get a lot out of a little, if you find the right guys who have the right attitude, which I think Power does a good job of. But if you look at the guys we have gotten and then look at who teams in the NESCAC or like LAX or Wartburg or Pomona-Pitzer or especially Johns Hopkins get, I don't know that its really even close. TBH the MIAC just doesn't get that fast of recruits comparitive to the rest of the NCAA D3. I mean, Carleton's current senior class was goated when they came in. I remember shaking in my boots when we heard Gabe was joining Roy and Indy. So, in short, I don't look at Power's recruiting and am blown away by the high school times the future Oles run, but I do think Power is good at getting fits for the program, which allows St. Olaf to be a nationally relevant program. I mean, who would argue with a top 8 coach in the country - I certainly won't.

What does this even mean?

It’s a reference to the Edmund Fitzgerald. The Oles have lots of weird playlists they play at meets and their intramural basketball games.

Speaking of, shoutout to the runners who were casually having a conversation about the Edmund Fitzgerald during the conference race

I’ve had four Edmund Fitzgerald titktoks come across my feed this morning due to this thread. My morning is better for it.

It should be noted that a transfer running his first year of cross country at St. Scholastica beat many Oles this week. Chunko wouldn't let him join the team when he was at St. Olaf and in a very short period of time Chad has improved him to the level that he would be a scorer for 6 MIAC teams. If we want to talk about development we need to look at the 2023 MIAC Coach of the Year who is one of two coaches in the MIAC who have coached individual national champions. And to think Boone barely broke 4:30 and 10:00. Lars was similar, just a bit faster at the 3200. I think he and Maxwell, and maybe the Gusties assistant, have demonstrated the best ability to develop runners in the MIAC. Skemp's arguments of comparing the Oles to NESCAC and California schools is weak at best.

Love the photo the MIAC chose of Chunko for the MIAC COY. Dude looks to be 3 bills in that photo.

And Gabe cheesing in the All-MIAC photo is hilarious.

Brudder, Calvin Boone was that MF in high school. Dude was 11th at NXR. If he woulda had a senior year he woulda been a dawg. Don't be hating on my boy CALVIN MF BOONE. Also you didn't specify how my argument is weak? I thought it was a pretty decent argument, but I guess dudes in this conference don't really give a damn about the National stage. Like Brudder, wouldn't you love to make an appearance at the National meet? it's kinda cool ngl. Go check it out this year so you can get a taste!

Finally, good for Nik on a solid finish. Dude has some good potetial and I hope he has one or two more years of grad school to see if he can lower that 8k into the 25s. That being said, this is a bit of a misleading stat from you Mr. Nickle. Allow me to point out that Nik has been on the St. Olaf Nordic team for 4 years, which is typically a pretty good way to improve aerobic capacity, so he wasn't really sitting on his ass for 4 years. Secondly, He beat 5 of the 23 Oles that ran the race, so putting this in a way that makes it seem like he should have been let on the team is kind of a stretch. Finally, His high school times were not indicative of a recruit that St. Olaf would have their eyes on, as it doesn't look like he broke 11 in the 3200 or 5 in the mile. I'm not throwing shade at you though, Nik, you have some talent and a 28 minute 8k is pretty solid for a skier, but when you have limited spots and you want to get good recruits, you gotta have some standards for what you can let on the team or not.

In addition to this Mr. Nickle, it seems as though you are very upset that Power has recruiting standards that must be hit. I'm a bit confused why you are mad at him for this. I know that this is quite typical for many good D3 programs, and TBH many Olaf runners would not have been able to run at one of the NESCAC schools because we were not fast enough. So why aren't you mad at them? Should I be upset Williams wouldn't take me when Chuck Namiot and Graham Touhy were in my class. My younger brother Jonny would have been one of the best Olaf recruits, yet was told no by Williams and Bates. To put it in perspective, he was Navy's 11th or 12th guy this year. Let's dig a little deeper here my guy, I'm really interested in what really is the issue that the hate is derived from on this thread...