Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Silliest of Willies wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

If there was no Russian Colluuuuuuusion....

1. Why did Manafort share polling data?

2. Why all the lies and misdirection initially about the Trump Tower Meeting?

3. Why all the lies and misdirection about the Moscow Trump Tower Project?

4. Why all the lies and misdirection initially about why Comey was fired?

Those are just the things we know of as FACTS. You can't deny those FACTS. They are on the public record either in interviews or Twitter. Then there's Stone and other things.

Maybe they were just idiots and going along with whatever was happening just to ensure Trump wins. Maybe they didn't know it was illegal? I don't think it was premeditated. I think the Russian hacking was just sort of something they found out was happening and wanted it to continue.

Alan

1) What super secret polling data was shared? What kind of polling data was it? Was it in casual conversation? Was he telling the guy "Trumps' probably going to lose"? Why is this polling data important?

2) What lies were told about the Trump Tower meeting? Don Jr has been pretty forthcoming about what was discussed, and how after the topic of "dirt" on HRC came up, he did not pursue.

3) There weren't lies about the Moscow Tower project. There were REPORTED lies about it, but as we have all come to find out, it was all fake news. Don Jr has never changed his story that discussions and potential plans took place "well into" 2016. This is not illegal. Even Trump probably figured he'd lose the election.

4) There never were lies about why Comey was fired. Comey was fired because Trump didn't trust him, and knew he was out to get him. Rosenstein recommended he fire Comey (which of course was part of the Special Counsel setup) for not following FBI protocol and inexplicably letting HRC off the hook, so he had his supporting document right there. "The Russia thing" comment was Trump not standing by as some group of scumbags tried to create a hoax to derail him. Which, as we now know (explained below), was in fact the case.

Now let me ask you why YOU ignore the real interesting FACTS.

The FACTS that no one can even attempt to deny because we have all the legal documentation, texts, emails, etc.

The FACTS that conclusively show the FBI brass let HRC off the hook when she was clearly guilty in the summer fo 2016.

The FACTS that conclusively show that the fake Steele Dossier (paid for by HRC through Perkins-Coie to Fusion GPS) was used as the key document to start a spying effort (to get FISA approvals) against the Trump campaign.

The FACTS that conclusively show that FBI leads were DESPERATELY trying to stop Trump from becoming president to help HRC.

The FACTS that conclusively show that McCabe, Strzok, Page, Baker, Ohr and his wife, etc) were all in on the conspiracy.

The FACTS that all of these individuals (over 20 from the FBI & DOJ) have been fired, demoted multiple times, or resigned in disgrace ahead of this happening.

The FACTS that to this point there have been ZERO indictments for Russian God Damm Collluuuuuusssion.

Get your head out of the sand and look around at what these scumbags tried to pull on the American people, and then try to look someone in the eye and tell them it wasn't the exact definition of "undermining democracy".

Flagpole wrote:

RACIST Buckeye wrote:

In addition to your points, Ohio also graced Donald Trump with more votes than Obama did.

So now when you REALLY think about it, Flagpole is calling his state RACIST as the majority voted for Trump over Hillary.

Yes, that was a great point I just made, now watch how Flagpole flips the fact that he resides in a RACIST state.

With agip's logic, that now makes Flagpole a RACIST!

1) I have said many times that people who voted for Trump were not necessarily racist or stupid. There were legitimate reasons to give an outsider a chance in 2016. I have only recently begun to say that if you STILL support Trump today that you are stupid or racist. I stand by that statement.

2) I will go one further than you...I don't think a state needs to have the majority of its citizens to be racist for it to be considered a "racist state". We live today in a racist country, and no state is immune from that.

So yes, I live in a racist state. I don't understand your logic that I would defend Ohio against it being racist. Just because I live here doesn't mean I would do so. Time WILL make that better, because with the passage of time we become more enlightened as a society. This is why racism will ultimately disappear (not in my lifetime though) and religion as we know it will disappear.

Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) I have said many times that people who voted for Trump were not necessarily racist or stupid. There were legitimate reasons to give an outsider a chance in 2016. I have only recently begun to say that if you STILL support Trump today that you are stupid or racist. I stand by that statement.

2) I will go one further than you...I don't think a state needs to have the majority of its citizens to be racist for it to be considered a "racist state". We live today in a racist country, and no state is immune from that.

So yes, I live in a racist state. I don't understand your logic that I would defend Ohio against it being racist. Just because I live here doesn't mean I would do so. Time WILL make that better, because with the passage of time we become more enlightened as a society. This is why racism will ultimately disappear (not in my lifetime though) and religion as we know it will disappear.

Speaking of you living in a racist state, I'll be visiting Columbus soon to possibly purchase a very rare 1991 Audi 200 Avant. That's right, the world's fastest station wagon (at the time). Are you the seller by chance? Can I get a discount?

Racket wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

That's 28 years old!

There were some issues early on with reliability but it's also a little overblown. Negative public opinion at the time was largely due to the infamous 60 Minutes hit piece in '89 on the Audi 5000 nearly destroyed the brand overnight. Only two hundred Audi 200 Avants were made so this is a rare car to begin with, and at the time it made about the same horsepower as a Mustang or a Corvette of the era. The engine is direct descendant off the original Audi Quattro and it can be tuned to make around 350 horsepower today (that's without getting crazy with custom parts and all). So yes, it's got problems, probably a little rust, and will need some work. But it's rare, it's fun, it's a fast station wagon, and it's a piece of Audi history. So really a very nice enthusiast car that you can drive up to the slopes in. People who recognize it will appreciate it the rarity and people who don't will think it's just an old wagon.

Flagpolian Flop wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) I have said many times that people who voted for Trump were not necessarily racist or stupid. There were legitimate reasons to give an outsider a chance in 2016. I have only recently begun to say that if you STILL support Trump today that you are stupid or racist. I stand by that statement.

2) I will go one further than you...I don't think a state needs to have the majority of its citizens to be racist for it to be considered a "racist state". We live today in a racist country, and no state is immune from that.

So yes, I live in a racist state. I don't understand your logic that I would defend Ohio against it being racist. Just because I live here doesn't mean I would do so. Time WILL make that better, because with the passage of time we become more enlightened as a society. This is why racism will ultimately disappear (not in my lifetime though) and religion as we know it will disappear.

We live in a racist country? Yeah, ok. We had a black president for 2 terms, but instead of saying things are getting better, you imply things are getting worse or haven't changed. Wow, just wow! With the strides that have been made, you're raining on a sunny parade.

No state is immune from racism. Really? I have a newsflash for you old man, racism is everywhere and it's no different than a black person hating a white person for being white, racism will always be everywhere, including every country in the world, not just the U.S.

Religion will NOT disappear. You've really gone off the deep end with that one. How ignorant. Good luck after you take your last breath, because it's obvious you aren't a believer. Shame upon you and your family in Ohio who you've obviously taught to believe what you believe.

Don't like it here, move!

Flagpole wrote:

Flagpolian Flop wrote:

We live in a racist country? Yeah, ok. We had a black president for 2 terms, but instead of saying things are getting better, you imply things are getting worse or haven't changed. Wow, just wow! With the strides that have been made, you're raining on a sunny parade.

No state is immune from racism. Really? I have a newsflash for you old man, racism is everywhere and it's no different than a black person hating a white person for being white, racism will always be everywhere, including every country in the world, not just the U.S.

Religion will NOT disappear. You've really gone off the deep end with that one. How ignorant. Good luck after you take your last breath, because it's obvious you aren't a believer. Shame upon you and your family in Ohio who you've obviously taught to believe what you believe.

Don't like it here, move!

1) Just because this is still a racist country doesn't mean it hasn't gotten better, and I didn't imply at all that things are getting worse or haven't changed. If a fat person 100 pounds over weight loses 20 pounds, that's progress, but they are still fat.

2) Your second paragraph you present as if I disagree with that. I agree...racism is everywhere. I never said it wasn't. If the human race is on the planet long enough, racism will disappear. Both due to enlightenment but also homogeneity.

3) If the human race is around long enough, religion as we know it (which is what I said) will disappear. Go do some research on extinct religions and learn something. What makes Christianity or whatever religion you practice so special that it will survive the furthering of the human race? Why is the religion you practice THE one? You have faith in your religion because it was dominant in the culture in which you grew up. If humans were wiped off the earth and life began once again so that humanoids were once again on the earth who then grew to the level of knowledge we have today, they would rediscover scientific things...how to launch rockets into space, how to create radios, etc. BUT, there would not be a Christianity as we know it today...some other thing would emerge from people at our same level, but it would not be Christianity. You want to use the teaching of Jesus to help you through your life, then that seems good. Lots of good things in the Bible to go along with lots of crazy things. Stick with the good things, and that's not a bad idea. To believe that there is literally a God in the sky and that Jesus is his literal son and to believe in all that magical things that many Christians believe though is wacko. I don't plan to debate you on this, so respond if you will but know that I likely won't reply. Just letting you know my feelings on the matter.

4) I also didn't say I didn't like it here. I just said it was a racist country...and it is. For all you know, I LIKE it that way. I DON'T like it that way, but you assumed there. I have said many times over the years that the US is the best country in the world. I would not live in any other country.

Newz Flash wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

1) Just because this is still a racist country doesn't mean it hasn't gotten better, and I didn't imply at all that things are getting worse or haven't changed. If a fat person 100 pounds over weight loses 20 pounds, that's progress, but they are still fat.

2) Your second paragraph you present as if I disagree with that. I agree...racism is everywhere. I never said it wasn't. If the human race is on the planet long enough, racism will disappear. Both due to enlightenment but also homogeneity.

3) If the human race is around long enough, religion as we know it (which is what I said) will disappear. Go do some research on extinct religions and learn something. What makes Christianity or whatever religion you practice so special that it will survive the furthering of the human race? Why is the religion you practice THE one? You have faith in your religion because it was dominant in the culture in which you grew up. If humans were wiped off the earth and life began once again so that humanoids were once again on the earth who then grew to the level of knowledge we have today, they would rediscover scientific things...how to launch rockets into space, how to create radios, etc. BUT, there would not be a Christianity as we know it today...some other thing would emerge from people at our same level, but it would not be Christianity. You want to use the teaching of Jesus to help you through your life, then that seems good. Lots of good things in the Bible to go along with lots of crazy things. Stick with the good things, and that's not a bad idea. To believe that there is literally a God in the sky and that Jesus is his literal son and to believe in all that magical things that many Christians believe though is wacko. I don't plan to debate you on this, so respond if you will but know that I likely won't reply. Just letting you know my feelings on the matter.

4) I also didn't say I didn't like it here. I just said it was a racist country...and it is. For all you know, I LIKE it that way. I DON'T like it that way, but you assumed there. I have said many times over the years that the US is the best country in the world. I would not live in any other country.

3) This probably news to you, but Christianity is not and has not been the only religion. There will ALWAYS be religion.