And thanks for YOUR'S, it really added a lot to the thread, dumb boy!
And thanks for YOUR'S, it really added a lot to the thread, dumb boy!
I think Smiling Bob and dukerdog are sock puppets incognito, aka same person.
yoyoyopie do wrote:
I think Smiling Bob and dukerdog are sock puppets incognito, aka same person.
You aren't good at thinking.
This thread has long since run its course.
How do u look up marriage In michigan?
Then why are you even clicking on it let alone posting you dumba$$? I would say that you aren't the one who's very good at thinking.
Go to the Oakland County Court site and look up his name. Very easy to do.
godrekud wrote:
Then why are you even clicking on it let alone posting you dumba$$? I would say that you aren't the one who's very good at thinking.
Go to the Oakland County Court site and look up his name. Very easy to do.
cant find the Kipster
Thanks for the link. That was worth the listen. Surprised lrc wasn't mentioned. I was also surprised to learn that kip was first brought to singer's attention by a fellow writer/runner at the New Yorker.
Dr.Bill wrote:
Yes, the WBUR interview is now available for download at
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2012/09/14/marathon-michigan-cheatI've updated the WRR website to include this and other new info about Kip:
http://worldrecordrun.com/
Well the fellow runner writer more than likely came to LR, so of course he would share that with Mark.
The radio broadcast was a pretty good listen.
Of course, we all knew that he wouldn't show at races after the cat was out of the bag as he knew he'd be centered on by many people.
Of course he used a bike and walked onto the course acting like he was looking for someone while he crossed the mats. Setting off the mat would not set off any red flags to anyone near by as they are hearing the noise over and over.
Yes Scott H., Kip used a bike or had a "vault" of an accomplice. A rented car would be possible in some races depending on the course layout, but not most as he looks less suspicious on a bike (it could have been a combo?).
Obviously, someone saw him enter or leave the course in some races, but they wouldn't give him a second thought if he didn't have a number exposed.
I imagine that he's done racing in Michigan as anyone who runs races in the area would know about him and he would be pointed out and ragged on...and he knows it.
Enjoy your dentistry and life Kip as the pretend part, running races in sub 3, is over. So long!
p.s. Shame on you!
Most famous cheater was surely Spyridon Louis.
Someone just found a start photo of kip at the 2010 Vermont City Marathon after looking through tons of race photos
http://kiplitton.blogspot.com/2012/09/kl-photo-discovered-showing-him-at.html
It appears that kip wore blue shorts and a Tshirt at the start of the race, and finished with different shorts on and a red tank top.
Took 4min 34sec to cross starting line
Changing shorts during a 2:49 marathon - VT City
Now that is some fine sleuthing......in video, KL in no particular rush to sort thru the mass of humanity lined up ahead of him 4+ minutes thick as he is about 2 minutes into his race and probably doing a 10 minute pace if that.
Good points made by the latest sleuth as to his positioning with respect to the army guys with backpacks.
The shirt is no big deal - many wear a covering or throw away shirt at the start of cooler marathons.
But a shorts change??? Into stretchy shorts at that. I doubt they were under the other shorts. C'mon, that is a costume change. Plus all the other usual circumstantial things like absence in mid course pix...
dxcoach (VT RD) - do the right thing and DQ!!! You have enough evidence.
Lone Gunman wrote:
But a shorts change??? Into stretchy shorts at that. I doubt they were under the other shorts. C'mon, that is a costume change. Plus all the other usual circumstantial things like absence in mid course pix...
dxcoach (VT RD) - do the right thing and DQ!!! You have enough evidence.
I never understood the costume change thing. It only worked against him. Was he worried someone was going to notice a guy in black shorts on a bike? His cheating is all the more obvious when he shows up in photos with different outfits or shirts that look like they are fresh out of the laundry. The guy is an idiot.
Who is the 2010 Vermont City marathon race director ? What is his/her explanation now after knowing about Kip's costume change?
I think Kip never in his wildest dreams thought anyone would investigate him to this level. In his mind in 2010 he probably figured that the worst that could happen to him was an RD would email him telling him he was DQ.
Of course after the internet started looking into him Dr Litton would then turn around and tell others he either self DQ or was DQ for some "small oddities". He'll change his story/excuse depending on the audience
Who has cheated less: Lance, Lipton, Madoff, or John Edwards?
I never understood the costume change thing. It only worked against him. Was he worried someone was going to notice a guy in black shorts on a bike? His cheating is all the more obvious when he shows up in photos with different outfits or shirts that look like they are fresh out of the laundry. The guy is an idiot.[/quote]
As I explained early on (check the early pages) in this thing and will do again, it's because he's starting back and those people around him will never see him again as he's long gone before they finish. Yes, it's that simple friend, although it may not make sense, it's the only reason.
If he's photographed early on, and then later on wearing the same outfit he has to explain why he's running so far back so slowly and then suddenly makes his way up to the point of leading the master's race and beating all women, women whom he never passed and they can verify. If he's wearing a different outfit, not many people will put 1 and 1 together that it's the same guy. If not for LR, he would have gotten away with it much longer than he did and that's a fact. Notice he always attempts to keep his head down whenever caught during the race for a photo op that he can see coming. He simply denies that it's him.
I never understood the costume change thing. It only worked against him. Was he worried someone was going to notice a guy in black shorts on a bike? His cheating is all the more obvious when he shows up in photos with different outfits or shirts that look like they are fresh out of the laundry. The guy is an idiot.[/quote]
As I explained early on (check the early pages) in this thing and will do again, it's because he's starting back and those people around him will never see him again as he's long gone before they finish. Yes, it's that simple friend, although it may not make sense, it's the only reason.
If he's photographed early on, and then later on wearing the same outfit he has to explain why he's running so far back so slowly and then suddenly makes his way up to the point of leading the master's race and beating all women, women whom he never passed and they can verify. If he's wearing a different outfit, not many people will put 1 and 1 together that it's the same guy. If not for LR, he would have gotten away with it much longer than he did and that's a fact. Notice he always attempts to keep his head down whenever caught during the race for a photo op that he can see coming. He simply denies that it's him.
In addition, why the long compression socks? Simple. It's because anyone who "might" happen to remember him in the first few miles or minutes of the race would say "it can't be him as I would have remembered those socks". Why does it matter you ask, it's because who do you know who changes socks during a marathon? They will think that they were mistaken.
I do it all the time:))))))))))))
SOKLR wrote:
Changing shorts during a 2:49 marathon - VT City
So do you think by now even his kid tells him to shut up when he professes his innocence?