We also will be doing a live watch praty and reaction show starting 5 minutes before the race (so 1:55 pm ET) and then going on for as long as we need to afterwards:
Yes that included as well. But I also talked about how the powerful people running this sport are perverting running justice (morality). Thank you Armstrongliv for your timely reminder I’m humbled by your prestigious reputation.
Man, rek, tallon, and Armstronglivs sure know how to screw up a thread by demonstrating how little they actually know about running and the factors surrounding it.
Ironically, this stunt actually convinced me NOT to buy Nikes latest and greatest shoes, since they didn't help at all (the 0.7 second improvement has mostly due to pacers). That's the real failure of this event.
The randoms at my gym were talking about it this morning, so I think mission was accomplished in terms of the average person getting to know who Faith is. They don’t understand running anyway so to them 4:06 is probably super close. These are people who swear that they know someone running 4 min miles on a 10% incline so yeah, the average person is clueless.
4:06 with these pacers just indicates that the people who do the sport have already taken the legal advantages. They are not that dumb. They'd have had to change the surface or give her quite illegal bouncy shoes like the Spyros from the last decade.
Having no pacers on the inside seemed dumb during the attempt. She went through the 800 at 2:01. Bannister, Landy, Webb, and Ryun even Ruthe all went through their attempts at 1:58 or less. She should have just raced 20 high school kids if she wanted to try to negative split the 4 minute mile.
Ironically, this stunt actually convinced me NOT to buy Nikes latest and greatest shoes, since they didn't help at all (the 0.7 second improvement has mostly due to pacers). That's the real failure of this event.
I think she’s probably in not quite as good shape as she was two years ago when she ran the 4:07. So there’s probably a bit larger effect from the stunt conditions.
We’ll see for sure at Pre, where I expect her to win, but not break the world record in the 1500.
Why in the post-race interview was she saying that she proved it could be done?? How does running a 4:06 prove a woman can break 4?
I was shocked she held on for 4:06. Way back my 1000 PR was also 2:29. One time in mile race, which I had no business to be in, went through 1000 in 2:32 and I was there. I ran a 34 (3:06) then an 80 (4:26) Not joking lol.
Yeah maybe you are right. In that case I think with all due respect to women out there and the sub 4min mile, this was a cool event but one and done.
But don’t you find it like some sort of one night stand. Like the crowd and athletes coming together to feed off of each other’s inherent sexual energies in lightening quick time of about 4:06 minutes and then ej*culate* and it’s all over just like that? Like as fast as a one night stand quickie? And the participants all seemed way too obliging with half baked smiles, reluctant hi-fis and strange chatter bordering on soliloquy? Like the vibe all seems fake as hell. Even that interview lady outright told a lie to the viewers by telling Faith she made it or did it and achieved the impossible milestone. She didn’t event threaten the 4:06 barrier.
Perhaps - thats an interesting metaphorical way to describe it :D
I think if it wasn't clear before, it should have been clear watching the production and just listening to the commentary/narratives pushed in the hour it was on. And all the Nike interns instructed to get on this messageboard can get upset and downvote this like an earlier comment I made, but this was PR initiative focused on running and women in-running. And I think that it's pretty clear that they needed a barrier to challenge because that was part of the campaign - "women can take on barriers too - just like men" and she was the best positioned athlete on their roster to build that story around. But for this to play out like 99% of people thought it would (not negativity, just objective reality) - there is simply no way her team around her saw any indication it would be possible either.
But it obviously wasn't the point. Like the good old marketing adage "people don't buy what you make, they buy why you make it" - what she actually ended up doing was secondary to why she was trying to do it, and that is what has mattered here. She is a fantastic asset for a brand like Nike and they utilized her as such. Could people not pick up on this from the comments every single person on the production said? From Swangard to Lewis, to Nwodim trackside, Diljeet and Keely - it was all very consistent.
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