I will give you my prediction. She will run fast but not fast enough to get into AIU's elite testing pool. She will continue to dope to try to make the Olympics. Then the screws will start to tighten and she will lack the discipline to lift the foot off the gas pedal.
Can you share AIU testing guidelines for performance testing so we are aligned on what is fast enough?
Oh please. Still playing this game? A 4:46 1600m was a good but not particularly great time. It is comparable to what good high school runners run every single year. Look them up. Btw Tuohy ran 4:45 in the mile her freshman year, not 4:48, and that was before she really hit her stride. Despite injury she also ran a 4:39 indoor mile at the Millrose prelim her junior year, not 4:46, which she ran before shutting down her junior outdoor season. If you are going to "bother to respond", at least have a clue about what you are claiming.
By Wiley's junior year she was being coached by the Johnsons. Putting that side, a 4:38 mile was very good, although all the top milers in the super show era are all running faster. Bottom line, despite your deficient claims, that 4:26 1600m was a full ten (10) seconds faster than her previous pr and was clearly a very anomalous time. So yes, out of the blue. And no, running a good 1600m time as a freshman does not explain it at all.
Anything else.? By all means, enlighten me.
I will concede your points on Tuohy, I clearly don't know her record as well as you. She improved her mile time by 12 seconds from her frosh to soph year. Wiley did not have a soph year and improved her time from frosh to junior by about 10 seconds and then another 10 seconds from junior to senior. A 20 second improvement from frosh to senior doesn't seem really out of line for a HS runner that missed a year of competition.
Mary Cain improved by over 7 seconds in the 1500 and 11 seconds in the mile from her junior to senior years.
You have no evidence. When you do come back and show it to us. In the meantime you are coming close to defamation (untruths told with malice), and the evidence for that is in what you are posting. You should be more careful.
Tuohy physically matured between her freshman and sophomore years. The difference was noticeable. Mary Cain was being coached by Salazar, so I am not sure she is an ideal example. NOP was what it was. That said, Cain showed her ability early. She ran a 1:59 800m and a 4:04 1500m at 16.
It was not just the improvement, but the crazy time. The pacing element threw it off, but a 4:26 1600m was just a very unusual time. Even the thread that reported it was titled "out of the blue."
Please stop making a mockery of our sport. Collegiate distance running is the last chance for young, innocent athletes, or those not yet willing to cheat, to still compete on a relatively even playing field. You are in the process of ruining what's left to love about amateur track and cross-country running.
You've already opened Pandora's Box at the HS level, setting one virtually unbreakable record and demoralizing an entire generation of young female distance runners in the process. And now you're clearly at it again in the NAIA. Sadly, history has shown us that a failed test is extremely unlikely to happen at your current level.
Anyone who has raced, coached, or closely followed track for more than a few years understands what is going on here. The rest are either completely green, remain blissfully ignorant, or are blinded with delusional optimism that you are indeed the Chosen One.
There is no magic in you, your coaches, your training, or Huntington University. It's no secret who you've willingly worked with and what they've done in the past. Perhaps you've been brainwashed by your coaches and enablers, but you still hold power to fix this.
Please come clean (or don't) and stop. Or just go pro now and dope all you want -- we've already lost that battle. Your actions are affecting every young, clean athlete, and the fans still trying to love this dying sport.
Sincerely, A fan and former NCAA 800m All-American
Sadly, if pro's are doping - like you say - that will mean some ambitious college athletes will follow their example.
And given the fact that half the top ones look like theyve stepped out of a laboratory,tells me that they dope,alright.
As usual, totally made up lies. Johnson ran 4:33/4:15 in 2011 and did not run 4:04 until 2015. Eleven seconds in four years. Funny, someone else in that 2015 race made even more improvement than her.
Oh please. Still playing this game? A 4:46 1600m was a good but not particularly great time. It is comparable to what good high school runners run every single year. Look them up. Btw Tuohy ran 4:45 in the mile her freshman year, not 4:48, and that was before she really hit her stride. Despite injury she also ran a 4:39 indoor mile at the Millrose prelim her junior year, not 4:46, which she ran before shutting down her junior outdoor season. If you are going to "bother to respond", at least have a clue about what you are claiming.
By Wiley's junior year she was being coached by the Johnsons. Putting that side, a 4:38 mile was very good, although all the top milers in the super show era are all running faster. Bottom line, despite your deficient claims, that 4:26 1600m was a full ten (10) seconds faster than her previous pr and was clearly a very anomalous time. So yes, out of the blue. And no, running a good 1600m time as a freshman does not explain it at all.
Anything else.? By all means, enlighten me.
If you are going to post Tuohy times, you can find all of Tuohy's times by year in the Tully Runner season preview for each XC season. For example, in the 2016 Preview her 8th grade times are shown while the 2018 Preview shows her 10th grade times. There is a separate link for each XC year.
Good morning letsrun! It’s time for the daily update. Addy Wiley is still in Europe. Getting ready to run fast in her Diamond League Debut.
Astro is busy trying to come up with new and clever ways to call her a cheater while he finishes the chores his Mom makes him do to pay the basement rent.
But the question of the day is: HOW DID ROJOS CALL GO TO THE SUPER AGENT?
It’s afternoon in Europe and the start of the work day on the East Coast. Surely given your importance in the sport and your expertise on all things Huntington you have been able to get the agent on the phone already, right? When can we expect to see the Diamond League entries corrected to your liking Rojo?
Tuohy physically matured between her freshman and sophomore years. The difference was noticeable. Mary Cain was being coached by Salazar, so I am not sure she is an ideal example. NOP was what it was. That said, Cain showed her ability early. She ran a 1:59 800m and a 4:04 1500m at 16.
It was not just the improvement, but the crazy time. The pacing element threw it off, but a 4:26 1600m was just a very unusual time. Even the thread that reported it was titled "out of the blue."
Your justifications for why Tuohy had a big jump in performance are completely hypocritical.
"She physically matured" could easily be when she started talking chemical enhancements. Typically when girls "physically mature" it does not make them faster.
Besides, this micro-analyzing progression to infer doping is nonsensical. You seem to think that every fast runner should have the same progression (i.e. Tuohy's progression) in high school and college, and any deviation indicates doping. Progression is NOT linear and highly variable. You clearly have never actually been a runner, because I have seen all sorts of major jumps in performance, stagnation, etc.
Oh please. Still playing this game? A 4:46 1600m was a good but not particularly great time. It is comparable to what good high school runners run every single year. Look them up. Btw Tuohy ran 4:45 in the mile her freshman year, not 4:48, and that was before she really hit her stride. Despite injury she also ran a 4:39 indoor mile at the Millrose prelim her junior year, not 4:46, which she ran before shutting down her junior outdoor season. If you are going to "bother to respond", at least have a clue about what you are claiming.
By Wiley's junior year she was being coached by the Johnsons. Putting that side, a 4:38 mile was very good, although all the top milers in the super show era are all running faster. Bottom line, despite your deficient claims, that 4:26 1600m was a full ten (10) seconds faster than her previous pr and was clearly a very anomalous time. So yes, out of the blue. And no, running a good 1600m time as a freshman does not explain it at all.
Anything else.? By all means, enlighten me.
I will concede your points on Tuohy, I clearly don't know her record as well as you. She improved her mile time by 12 seconds from her frosh to soph year. Wiley did not have a soph year and improved her time from frosh to junior by about 10 seconds and then another 10 seconds from junior to senior. A 20 second improvement from frosh to senior doesn't seem really out of line for a HS runner that missed a year of competition.
Mary Cain improved by over 7 seconds in the 1500 and 11 seconds in the mile from her junior to senior years.
If you bother to look at facts her freshman year mile time does not reflect her best performance. She ran 4:18.5 for 1500 as a freshman (much faster than 4:45 mile) and dropped that to 4:14.5 as a sophomore (a time in line with her 4:33.9 mile). Where Tuohy took the big leap was in XC, over 1 minute on most courses she ran both years.
Your justifications for why Tuohy had a big jump in performance are completely hypocritical.
"She physically matured" could easily be when she started talking chemical enhancements. Typically when girls "physically mature" it does not make them faster.
I'm not going to comment on Wiley's progression except for the fact that all athletes do not progress linearly and on the same projection. Everyone is different.
That said, Touhy did not have a "big jump" in performance. She progressed in a manner that was akin to a lot of top collegiate runners.
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