Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Well, AOC is a lot smarter than Palin. And Palin never had any policy ideas at all that I can remember.

But I get your point about utopia. And the devil is always in the details. It's a tried and true political tactic to hype the ideas and put off the specifics as long as possible.

This is something that makes Elizabeth Warren unique. She is big on policy and she already has the details worked out because she's been working on these details since long before she became a politician. Coming out with solid, detailed plans this early is really brave, and really stupid at the same time. But it's the honest thing to do.

The problem is that AOC is only 29 years old and even if she is talented, she just isn't ready to spearhead major policies. She should cool her jets for 10+ years and formulate some well thought out policies. In just about any industry experience matters.

re-Hi wrote:

Hi wrote:

Exactly. Both sides use political donations to pay for legal stuff related to the campaign. Democrat voters have no problem if the DNC uses donated money to do legal work related to the campaign, nor should they. This article didn't report about anything illegal, it's only purpose was to trick blindly partisan people into thinking they have the moral high ground.

The Trump campaign used inauguration money to line Trump's pockets. The campaign paid the Trump Hotel more than 2x the normal rate for use of rooms--$175k per night x 4 nights. There were also donations made to the Trump inauguration (wine and catering) that not claimed as contributions, as they legally are supposed to be, that seem to be charged as billable costs by the Trump campaign.

Anyway, not to worry. Mueller is not looking into the "where did the money go, and who made donations" to the Trump inauguration. That is being handled by the courts.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Ok so maybe I’m wrong about the Green New Deal. Polls show it has vast public support. Even when asking for a tax on carbon emissions polls show support by +5%.

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/421765-poll-majorities-of-both-parties-support-green-new-dealhttps://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c54c97ce4b08710475376b4

Yes, I’m aware polls can be flawed.

Going back to the 2016 election and California. Stop chewing on that bone. It’s done. Yes California is a large state. In fact it has more voters than ANY other state. Sometimes even more voters than multiple states combined. Similarly we could combine the Deep South into one state and call it BluesAndDisco and then we could comment on how many votes the Republicans get from BluesAndDisco and how the only reason why they get so many votes is because of BluesAndDisco. See how silly that sounds?

Alan

I don't understand how anyone could take AOC seriously. Her plan outlines changing the U.S. into a utopia, but without any detail as to how it anything would be paid. It should have been reviewed by economists and a coherent outline would have taken months to complete.

She seems to believe her having received 110,000 votes is confirmation of her ability to save the world. However, to date she seems like a liberal Sarah Palin. I'm a fairly liberal Democrat, but I wish she would just go away.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

re-Hi wrote:

The Trump campaign used inauguration money to line Trump's pockets. The campaign paid the Trump Hotel more than 2x the normal rate for use of rooms--$175k per night x 4 nights. There were also donations made to the Trump inauguration (wine and catering) that not claimed as contributions, as they legally are supposed to be, that seem to be charged as billable costs by the Trump campaign.

Anyway, not to worry. Mueller is not looking into the "where did the money go, and who made donations" to the Trump inauguration. That is being handled by the courts.

The payments to Trump's hotel is the craziest part of it. He is the one that benifets, but if he really is a billionaire it would just be pocket change to him. It would be like me stealing a candy bar instead of paying for it.

Anybody besides Trump would have a third party accounting firm to review every expenditure by the fund to verify necessity and confirm market price.

Brolin & Del Toro were AWESOME though wrote:

I just had a realization—is this whole boarder wall debate just a big misunderstanding?

I am wondering if Trump and those who still support have accidentally mistaken the wonderful work of fiction “Sicaro—Day of the Solado” for a documentary about the southern boarder? Was that movie recently shown on Fox?

This would all make sense since Trump and those who support him accept anything and everyone shown on Fox as true. It would also explain Trump’s recent comments about El Paso—which in reality is very safe but in the movie is the target of terrorists sneaking across the southern boarder. It may also explain why he is not calling for a Northern boarder Wall—even though in reality we have stopped terrorists crossing that boarder but have not had similar incidents along the southern boarder (at least not outside of a fictional movie).

I loved the movie btw. You should check it out. Just realize it is fiction, not a documentary.

Fat hurts wrote:

Econ 101 wrote:

Aren't you the guy who constantly advocates the notion that solar power will be essentially free? But at the same time there will be hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs associated with solar power? You do realize that these are mutually exclusive, right?

Touting the massive numbers of high paying jobs in solar ("already more than coal, oil and gas combined") is basically admitting that solar is VERY expensive. Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.

Solar is essentially free after you build the infrastructure. That's what I've always said. Even with today's technology, you can put solar panels on your house and it will pay for itself in 8 to 10 years. After that, you are getting all your electricity for free.

It's the same principle with a nationwide build-out of renewable energy. We would have a surge in renewable energy jobs that would last a few decades. The cost of energy would start to plummet until it reaches essentially zero.

So they are not mutually exclusive. It's investment that gives us thousands of new jobs now and free energy later. Both now and later, we reap huge economic benefits.

Brolin & Del Toro were AWESOME though wrote:

Brolin & Del Toro were AWESOME though wrote:

I just had a realization—is this whole boarder wall debate just a big misunderstanding?

I am wondering if Trump and those who still support have accidentally mistaken the wonderful work of fiction “Sicaro—Day of the Solado” for a documentary about the southern boarder? Was that movie recently shown on Fox?

This would all make sense since Trump and those who support him accept anything and everyone shown on Fox as true. It would also explain Trump’s recent comments about El Paso—which in reality is very safe but in the movie is the target of terrorists sneaking across the southern boarder. It may also explain why he is not calling for a Northern boarder Wall—even though in reality we have stopped terrorists crossing that boarder but have not had similar incidents along the southern boarder (at least not outside of a fictional movie).

I loved the movie btw. You should check it out. Just realize it is fiction, not a documentary.

I forgot to say the other side of the coin.

You mean like the idiots, like myself, who supported and voted for Hillary the Crook after what she had done BEFORE running for President and LOSING? Gosh I'm such a fool.

Brolin & Del Toro were AWESOME though wrote:

I just had a realization—is this whole boarder wall debate just a big misunderstanding?

I am wondering if Trump and those who still support have accidentally mistaken the wonderful work of fiction “Sicaro—Day of the Solado” for a documentary about the southern boarder? Was that movie recently shown on Fox?

This would all make sense since Trump and those who support him accept anything and everyone shown on Fox as true. It would also explain Trump’s recent comments about El Paso—which in reality is very safe but in the movie is the target of terrorists sneaking across the southern boarder. It may also explain why he is not calling for a Northern boarder Wall—even though in reality we have stopped terrorists crossing that boarder but have not had similar incidents along the southern boarder (at least not outside of a fictional movie).

I loved the movie btw. You should check it out. Just realize it is fiction, not a documentary.

Runningart2004 wrote:

So....

Given that the Mueller Investigation has already been more successful in terms of indictments, verdicts, and guilty pleas than ANY special counsel investigation in history....

Given the revelations from the other investigations going on (SDNY, FBI investigation into the inauguration, etc)...

Given the other revelations and assumed facts (Trump thought firing Flynn would end the whole Russia mess, Trump fired Comey because of the Flynn investigation and Russia, Trump et.al. continued to lie about the Moscow Tower project, Manafort giving out polling data to a Russian, Trump siding with Putin over his intel agencies, Trump continuing to thumb his nose at his intel agencies, Trumo being secretive about his meeting with Putin...)

Given all this and more I’m sure I’ve left out....

Are we to believe this is some Deep State shenanigans? Some angry Democrat agenda?

Or is this simply the result of good investigative practices? That Trump surrounds himself with felons and crooks?

Now none of this proves “Collusion” or conspiracy. But it shows at the very least a very corrupt and felonious administration.

So are people ok with all of this so long as no conspiracy directly involving Trump is proven? Real question.

Alan