Excellent. That last post should help this thread make it to 5,000 posts.
Excellent. That last post should help this thread make it to 5,000 posts.
So Singer asked the right questions, but he didn't ask the right people. Damn!
I realize that "from the staff" is almost certainly Kip but... just in case... Why would Singer interview the staff about his cheating in road races if they had never witnessed any of his races? Perhaps, if Kip had opened up to Singer about his cheating and apologized, the story could have delved into his psychology a little more and relatives and co-workers could have been interviewed. Based on Kip's constant lieing, the story ended up being based purely on facts and was not intended to be a human interest story. If a different reporter was writing a story about his dental practice, do you think that they would interview race administrators? Of course not. It has zero relevance to the story. Mark Singer did ask Kip for non-family (as his family would obviously cover up for him) witnesses who could verify his claims and he couldn't provide any.
Whether you think that Kip is a nice guy around the office or not, he is very clearly an enormous narcissist. Perhaps one of the reasons that he is allegedly so good to people around the office is that he deeply cares what people think about him and wants everybody else to think he's as great as he himself thinks he is. The way you describe him, he sounds like Michael Scott from "The Office".
Good last post.
Please dont feed the trolls. The 'from the staff' post is obviously a troll vs kl (is there a difference?).
Even if sincere, it makes no matter if kl is the equivalent of Mother Theresa in other life aspects. The facts are the facts about the races. The two are virtually mutually exclusive. Narcissism is really the root (reference especially those rw posts from a few pages ago. - If you want to get lots of praise for your running, go to the rw boards. Less so here to say the least.
OK - I am now officially the biggest loser in the universe, but after investigating Litton for two years, I just read all 280 posts in this thread:
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4761190&page=0
I might finally be able to kick my addiction by transferring to another cheater. Give Kip a rest. Here's where the new action is.
From the staff wrote:
These accusations are very mean and come from people who don't even know Kip. I have worked in his office just feet away from Dr. Litton 10 hours a day for 20 years. We know him very well and you don't. If the (fiction) writer wanted to be accurate he would have talked to his family, friends and office staff. But he did not- that says A LOT. I know I will be attacked so I will not talk about the cheating claims, but will stick to Kip as a person. I won't come back to this awful place so don't bother calling me stupid. I also know Kip's wife and kids well, and they were all deeply shocked to see cheating accusations in the article that had to be false because of what they saw with their own eyes at the races. I was not at races but I can say in all the years I have spent with Kip he has never said or done anything that would lead me to believe he would break rules or laws or cheat.
Anything said about Kip's values, mental health or integrity that is negative would be an absolute LIE with NO basis. Other than his family, his staff members have probably spent more time with Kip than anyone else over the last 20 years. I was present both times when this despicable writer weaseled his way into the office. Before working with Kip I had worked for 7-8 other dentists. Almost all of them said or did some questionable things. There have been many times when Kip had the chance to scam people but he chose not to. It is not by chance that employees almost never leave this office. Kip is a good honest person. He is a great dentist. He is very caring and gentle and makes many patients very happy. He has been voted best dentist in the area many times. He is friendly to all and often uses humor to calm nervous patients. He is a very fair and generous employer. He is also generous with others- I have been to big charity fundraisers in his home. He has no dark side or split personality- that is just NONSENSE!! Over the years he has helped me with some of my own personal problems. Yes, he is a very good runner but he never brags about it and rarely talks about it unless asked. Even then he answers quickly and then asks the patient about their interests. He steers most praise he gets toward us employees. Anything that contradicts all this is a NASTY LIE. These are facts that most anyone who knows Kip will confirm. If you don't know him, please shut your mouth- you mean people need to look inside your heart and stop tearing others down!! I am leaving this horrible place and will never return.
Hi Kip, er sorry I mean "staff", what does anything you have said have to do with the overwhelming evidence of not running the whole course in far too many numerous races to mention? If I intentionally cut the course in a race and was being questioned about it, I would really like anyone I knew professionally to be interviewed on my behalf because who better to not add anything remotely useful to any attempt to find out the facts?
Funny because If I were Kip I would hire all new staff after the new Yorker article came out
HOW IS THIS IS STILL GOING ON.
WE GET IT, HE IS A CHEATER.
56456 wrote:
HOW IS THIS IS STILL GOING ON.
WE GET IT, HE IS A CHEATER.
Does he get it? He still insists he's never intentionally cut a course short.
Y R U still reading it and responding? that is the question!
56456 wrote:
HOW IS THIS IS STILL GOING ON.
WE GET IT, HE IS A CHEATER.
Let me get this straight, you spend your time reading forums on the internet looking for threads you think shouldn't be active and you comment adversely on them?
Do you think you might have issues? Wouldn't the more normal reaction to ignore them? You aren't going to get the result you apparently want and I would imagine you know that. Time to move on and accept that other people have different ideas.
I have a suspicion that Kip may have hired Connie & James in order to deflect attention away from himself. What are the odds of the winning M & W Masters both cheating in the same marathon (Wipro SF). Brilliant! This is almost better than making up West Wyoming.
Can I get an AMEN for predicting the article wouldn't end this thread?
Junk Master wrote:
Can I get an AMEN for predicting the article wouldn't end this thread?
No, but you can have just one thin mint.
Rich Rodriguez wrote:
Wow! That's quite a scenario! I haven't heard anything, and It couldnt have happened because we tracked Kip's location (using GPS on his SUV and a private detective) to him dropping a turd on the crapper at a Porto potty next to the chiropractor in Davison (the one adjacent to his dental office - the crappers in his dental office must be out of order). Additionally, we looked through the cache on his computers and cell phone records and couldn't find any contact with those folks in San Francisco.
if you hear anything though, send it my way!
Thanks!
RRodriguez@live.com
Hi Kip
Hmmmmmmmmmm wrote:
Rich Rodriguez wrote:Wow! That's quite a scenario! I haven't heard anything, and It couldnt have happened because we tracked Kip's location (using GPS on his SUV and a private detective) to him dropping a turd on the crapper at a Porto potty next to the chiropractor in Davison (the one adjacent to his dental office - the crappers in his dental office must be out of order). Additionally, we looked through the cache on his computers and cell phone records and couldn't find any contact with those folks in San Francisco.
if you hear anything though, send it my way!
Thanks!
RRodriguez@live.comHi Kip
He is not Kip. I know this because.....
I AM KIP.
Wow! That's quite a scenario! It couldnt have happened because we tracked Kip's location (using GPS on his SUV and a private detective) to him dropping a turd at a Porto potty next to the chiropractor in Davison (you know, the one adjacent to his dental office). our investigative team concluded that the crappers in his dental office must be out of order. Additionally, we looked through the cache on his computers and cell phone records and couldn't find any contact with those folks in San Francisco.
I haven't heard anything, but if you hear anything though, send it my way!
Thanks!
Rich Rodriguez wrote:
Wow! That's quite a scenario! It couldnt have happened because we tracked Kip's location (using GPS on his SUV and a private detective) to him dropping a turd at a Porto potty next to the chiropractor in Davison (you know, the one adjacent to his dental office). our investigative team concluded that the crappers in his dental office must be out of order. Additionally, we looked through the cache on his computers and cell phone records and couldn't find any contact with those folks in San Francisco.
I haven't heard anything, but if you hear anything though, send it my way!
Thanks!
RRodriguez@live.com
Nice but u could've written something more funny
From the staff wrote:
These accusations are very mean and come from people who don't even know Kip. I have worked in his office just feet away from Dr. Litton 10 hours a day for 20 years. We know him very well and you don't. If the (fiction) writer wanted to be accurate he would have talked to his family, friends and office staff. But he did not- that says A LOT. I know I will be attacked so I will not talk about the cheating claims, but will stick to Kip as a person. I won't come back to this awful place so don't bother calling me stupid. I also know Kip's wife and kids well, and they were all deeply shocked to see cheating accusations in the article that had to be false because of what they saw with their own eyes at the races. I was not at races but I can say in all the years I have spent with Kip he has never said or done anything that would lead me to believe he would break rules or laws or cheat.
Anything said about Kip's values, mental health or integrity that is negative would be an absolute LIE with NO basis. Other than his family, his staff members have probably spent more time with Kip than anyone else over the last 20 years. I was present both times when this despicable writer weaseled his way into the office. Before working with Kip I had worked for 7-8 other dentists. Almost all of them said or did some questionable things. There have been many times when Kip had the chance to scam people but he chose not to. It is not by chance that employees almost never leave this office. Kip is a good honest person. He is a great dentist. He is very caring and gentle and makes many patients very happy. He has been voted best dentist in the area many times. He is friendly to all and often uses humor to calm nervous patients. He is a very fair and generous employer. He is also generous with others- I have been to big charity fundraisers in his home. He has no dark side or split personality- that is just NONSENSE!! Over the years he has helped me with some of my own personal problems. Yes, he is a very good runner but he never brags about it and rarely talks about it unless asked. Even then he answers quickly and then asks the patient about their interests. He steers most praise he gets toward us employees. Anything that contradicts all this is a NASTY LIE. These are facts that most anyone who knows Kip will confirm. If you don't know him, please shut your mouth- you mean people need to look inside your heart and stop tearing others down!! I am leaving this horrible place and will never return.
Finally! Someone who understands the situation.
You can tell how personal this got for Scott Hubbard since he hasn't even chimed in on the James Kilani cheating thread.