We also will be doing a live watch praty and reaction show starting 5 minutes before the race (so 1:55 pm ET) and then going on for as long as we need to afterwards:
I think you misread khamis post. His posts are always original and non cut n paste. He is also very candid not in the sense of encouraging immoral attitudes but more towards admonishing against it. And he is both subtle and direct at once which is a unique stylistic skill.
Inaptitude guys will read that he is into orgies but smart guys who can read under the lines can invoke that he despises it. Context and timing is key with Khamis words
Based on the drafting research paper, the pacers behind the runner also had an affect on the wind resistance of the subject. Idk how, but I'm also not a scientist lol. They could have also been men (and then they probably wouldn't have dropped out), so I think the visual was also important.
I’m interested to know what data the people at Nike have that made them feel that sub 4:00 was a feasible outcome. They bet a lot of money and PR on this. With no disrespect to Faith, I didn’t think there was any shot at her running sub 4:00 unless they were setting up industrial fans circling the track and using illegal shoes or spikes. I think the only way a woman runs sub 4:00 with our current training knowledge and technology would be to use extreme levels of doping, like female to male hormone replacement therapy type stuff.
Honestly huge kudos to Faith for taking a honest stab at it though. Super gutsy.
I'm not sure you know how marketing works. They got plenty out of this and didn't lose it all because she didn't break 4.
That's your opinion. If you are not interested, what are you doing here?
I'm interested to observe the decline of real sport.
I am glad you choose to spend time with what angers you, upsets you and riles you up. It's good to know that you are miserable. Now reply, as you always do, and be sure I won't even be coming back here. You are an absolute clown. Faith did nothing for the decline of real sport. Enjoy being a sad old clown.
Yeah if she had targeted 61s I could see her having run 4:04 but that last 250 was pretty tough.
Yes, exactly this. She was very impressive through 1200, surely by far faster than any woman has run for that distance. But clearly not ready for 4-flat pace the whole way. 4:04 could have happened with slightly slower pacing.
All of the advantages were worth at least 3 seconds, but the pace was too fast.
She typically runs the first half slower so her time minimizing would have been 30.6 to 31.0 for a 2:03+ first 800, followed by 30.0 to 30.5s for 4:04+.
I clearly was over optimistic on the pacing advantage but it was still worth a try. Also, she might be in 4:10 shape so a 4:06 might be an improvement of 3 plus seconds and she paid a penalty with dying at the end. But she even dies well, because it was not a complete blowup because she's tougher than most of us.
I’m not sure a time trial stunt where she tries to run low to mid 4:05s is worth the opportunity cost for her.
She could just have a regular indoor season and try to grab the official mile WR (and an indoor World championship in the 1500).
Yeah maybe you are right. In that case I think with all due respect to women out there and the sub 4min mile, this was a cool event but one and done.
But don’t you find it like some sort of one night stand. Like the crowd and athletes coming together to feed off of each other’s inherent sexual energies in lightening quick time of about 4:06 minutes and then ej*culate* and it’s all over just like that? Like as fast as a one night stand quickie? And the participants all seemed way too obliging with half baked smiles, reluctant hi-fis and strange chatter bordering on soliloquy? Like the vibe all seems fake as hell. Even that interview lady outright told a lie to the viewers by telling Faith she made it or did it and achieved the impossible milestone. She didn’t event threaten the 4:06 barrier.
I’m interested to know what data the people at Nike have that made them feel that sub 4:00 was a feasible outcome. They bet a lot of money and PR on this. With no disrespect to Faith, I didn’t think there was any shot at her running sub 4:00 unless they were setting up industrial fans circling the track and using illegal shoes or spikes. I think the only way a woman runs sub 4:00 with our current training knowledge and technology would be to use extreme levels of doping, like female to male hormone replacement therapy type stuff.
Honestly huge kudos to Faith for taking a honest stab at it though. Super gutsy.
They strung her along didn't they? Making her believe it was possible with the right formation of athletes around her.
Well they miscalculated badly. She delivered her end of the deal, but the scientists did not.
Why in the post-race interview was she saying that she proved it could be done?? How does running a 4:06 prove a woman can break 4?
Yeah I noticed that too. She told us an outright lie shame on them all. The interviewer can’t even discern basic scoreboard numbers omg! This is how fk up our sport is right now. We got the wrong people running it but I guess we don’t have a choice do we
(1) it was cool to see Faith going "all out". i haven't seen her visibly in that much distress before. she usually a fairly stoic runner until the last 100m. i often wondered if top elite athletes are just different in that they're so well trained they just dont feel pain as intensely as us regular people, or if some elite athletes are so talented they rarely have to enter that zone to accomplish their goals. i think maybe it's a combination. anyway, interesting. (2) i dont understand why nike didn't put her in funhouse shoes. they looked like pretty standard spikes to me. i figured she would have come out in road-racing type shoes with crazy cushioning and multiple carbon plates. to me, this seemed like the only way she could have gotten reasonably close to 4 (3) the "so close" speech they prepared was inadequate given how far off she was. no, faith did not show that 4 minutes is possible or that this is something we can expect in the future - just the opposite actually. you would think they would have prepared a "terrible failure" speech, especially given number (4) (4) nike and the entire team must have known how far off she would be based on training data and prior time trials. why on earth would they put this event together given that it must have been totally obvious in the preceding months that she would get no where close to 4 minutes? seems strange to me (5) faith is not in her 2023 and 2024 form. she could not even beat her 1000m pb from 2022, a year when she was over a second slower at 1500 (3:50.3, I think?) than in 2023 and 2024. even if she had gotten closer, we all would have wondered if the timing was wrong
I think you misread khamis post. His posts are always original and non cut n paste. He is also very candid not in the sense of encouraging immoral attitudes but more towards admonishing against it. And he is both subtle and direct at once which is a unique stylistic skill.
Inaptitude guys will read that he is into orgies but smart guys who can read under the lines can invoke that he despises it. Context and timing is key with Khamis words
She just had a bad race. She ran practically as fast in an all female race when she ran 4:07. It took men 21 years to go from 4:07 in 1933 to 3:59 in 1954. It will happen just not by Faith.
Breaking 1:50 800m next? What is the point of these shows until we see women at least running close to these times in competition? Doesn't this just serve to mock how far they are from those times? Why not just have a "Breaking 4:05"? What is with insisting on such a large leap for this? 4:05 seems like it would be an amazing achievement. I don't understand why would would put someone through such unrealistic expectations.