Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

In other news, CNN labeled Northampton as a Republican in its coverage last night.

Nice.

Faux news wrote:

In other news, CNN labeled Northampton as a Republican in its coverage last night.

Nice.

Nice indeed. Was that Northampton, Massachusetts or Northampton, Pennsylvania?

But seriously, did CNN really label Northam a Republican? They played a video of Northam with a chryon that said, "Gov. Ralph Northam | (R) Virginia"

That was the sum total of the mistake. At least they didn't call him Gov. Northampton as you did.

The Fox News article I saw didn't make clear that it was such a tiny, one-character mistake. Instead, they made it out to be some kind of CNN conspiracy.

I think Pelosi wants Trump to stay in office to be the opponent in the 2020 election.

I don’t think people should be burned at the cross for dumb stuff they did 30 yrs ago.

He shouldn’t have double downed though and that will come back to bite him.

Dem leadership is backed into a corner on this because they made a fuss over Kavannaugh’s decades old allegations so now everyone’s decades old skeletons are kryptonite.

Apologize and move on.

Alan

L L wrote:

After seeing one questionable old, old yearbook picture, Nancy Pelosi takes less than a day to determine that Governor Northam must resign.

After two years of investigations that have lead to several indictments, convictions and guilty pleas by Trump associates including clear evidence of financial impropriety, Pelosi still needs some official Mueller report to take a vote on impeachment which only initiates a trial of Trump.

Trump is not one of her own. Her constituents expect the Dems to be more ethical and moral, so usually there is swift action. But Trump.... he is a republican and “their” party rules and expectations are very different. Also why would Pelosi ever have pushed for a vote when the GOP had majority and there was zero chance of success? Obviously she is exercising her new powers already since the House went blue. But moral issues have everything to do with tolerance of the party (and of their voters as a result). Republicans tolerate all sorts of ethical violations and moral lapses, so it’s not her call. This is an easy one.

Resigner Trump wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

It is a fair point you are making, but the difference of course is that Northam is just a governor, not the President of the United States. Have to be MUCH more careful and measured when considering removing the President. With regard toe Pelosi, she's playing for the home run, and that is to get Trump out of office...because he's a criminal and deserves it.

Trump will resign. That is Pelosi's end game. Why would he resign, and not fight it out to the end? Money.

If a president resigns they get a full pension, plus all the perks that come with that – paid for office and expenses, paid for staff, paid for medical, paid for secret service protection.

If a president is impeach they would lose the above benefits.

Does Trump strike you as a smart guy with good betting instincts? Didn’t think so (look at his history). On top of that it’s human nature to double down, especially when things get tough and the odds start to get stacked against you. Look at past dictators who have gone into total denial and stuck to their guns even as it became completely obvious their fate was sealed. Maduro is going down that path right now. Why would trump fold when he thinks there is 100% chance he can keep winning? He is obviously mentally challenged since throughout his whole life he’s thought of himself as an absolute winner, when the facts tell a different story. No way he resigns, doesn’t matter what’s in store for him.

Good morning! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine am?

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/07/12/trump-speaks-after-nato-summit-stable-genius-newday-vpx.cnn

More & Moore wrote:

CONspriacy wrote:

Conspriacy you moron. Not collusion.

Trumpers are absolute idiots.

Yeah, yeah, the folks that ate up every single Russia + Trump story, for 2.5 years now, with all of them falling flat and being proven to be pure hope and speculation, with zero indictments in hand related to Russian collusion..........those people are "smart"

HAHA

Was the Trump Tower meeting illegal? Why or why not?

Trump fired Flynn because he believed it would end the initial Russia investigation.

Why fire Comey “over this Russia thing”?

Why all the lies from soooo many people who are now indicted or in jail already?

That’s what gets me. If nothing illegal was happening in regards to relationships/communications with Russians....then why all the lying?

Also why has the president continued to flip the bird at his intel agencies and on live TV took the side of Putin over his intel agencies?

Why the lies about the Moscow Trump Tower?

Why not sharing transcripts from his private meeting with Putin?

I think it’s simple. Trump is all about Trump. It’s all about his brand and his bottom line. He wants a Trump Tower in Moscow, he needs a Trump Tower in Moscow. He will get a Trump Tower in Moscow. The entire campaign was one big farce to increase and improve Russian contacts for that ultimate purpose.....then he accidently won the election. I would bet he talked business with Putin. Putin is, like Trump, a businessman. Of course he doesn’t want those transcripts out if it shows these two talking about a Moscow Trump Tower when he said he stopped those negotiations months before the election.

But, it doesn’t matter how many campaign or administration officials are indicted or plea (so far more than any president in history)....it doesn’t matter how many administration officials quit or are fired (so far more than any president in history)....ultimately it doesn’t matter how rotten or corrupt this administration is.

I believe Trump will last until he loses in 2020. I think the Mueller report will be mostly circumstantial and it will be up to us to connect the dots or believe the dots that Mueller connects. Unless there’s a Nixonian tape. Nixon would have skated free and clear without that damn tape. Trump will too.

Other things;

1. Trump Jr is going to be indicted. He lied to Congress. Mueller has to wait because Trump will explode and probably try to fire Mueller. I think he’s waiting as that will be his last move before finalizing the report. He will use Trump Jr as a bargaining chip to get Trump to sit for questions without a lengthy subpoena battle.

2. There’s a lot of fluff and talk about these left field Democrats, Medicare for all, green new deal and other such progressive dreams. It’s all a setup. It’s so the public can contrast them with more moderate Dems like Beto and Biden. I predict those two will officially announce they are running this fall. I think we could have a Biden/Beto ticket when all is said and done. Or maybe a Beto/Booker ticket?

Alan

Yup, that is the strategy. Put the outlandish progressives front and center...wait...and then make Robert (D-TX) and Pete (D-IN) the ticket FTW in 2020.

Wait. How did I miss that there’s an openly gay candidate named Buttigieg??

We HAVE to elect this guy! Amaaaaaazing.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

O’Rourke-Buttigieg 2020 FTW!!!!! wrote:

Yup, that is the strategy. Put the outlandish progressives front and center...wait...and then make Robert (D-TX) and Pete (D-IN) the ticket FTW in 2020.

Wait. How did I miss that there’s an openly gay candidate named Buttigieg??

We HAVE to elect this guy! Amaaaaaazing.

Alan

Yup, but he’s more than his sexuality. He’s also a Afghanistan War vet, still in the Reserves, a Rhodes Scholar, successful Mayor of South Bend, and an Indiana native. You’d have a ticket that includes a Texan and a Midwestern—places the Dems need to do well. Only possible down sides is there would be a “lack of diversity” on the ticket that could be a problem for some on the left.

Runningart2004 wrote:

I don’t think people should be burned at the cross for dumb stuff they did 30 yrs ago.

He shouldn’t have double downed though and that will come back to bite him.

Dem leadership is backed into a corner on this because they made a fuss over Kavannaugh’s decades old allegations so now everyone’s decades old skeletons are kryptonite.

Apologize and move on.

Alan

Allegations against Kavanugh were of assault.

These are allegations of insensitivity.

There was a full hearing with witness testimony for Kavanaugh to decide whether he was fit for the position that would be a lifetime appointment.

This has been a snap judgement within hours of seeing a picture to demand his resignation without looking into the background. VA governors only serve one term, I believe.

I will say that Northam’s responses have been pretty bad and inconsistent.

I’m just allowing for a little time to come to a conclusion.

Awesome! How are you?

Not just openly gay but also.... wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

Wait. How did I miss that there’s an openly gay candidate named Buttigieg??

We HAVE to elect this guy! Amaaaaaazing.

Alan

Yup, but he’s more than his sexuality. He’s also a Afghanistan War vet, still in the Reserves, a Rhodes Scholar, successful Mayor of South Bend, and an Indiana native. You’d have a ticket that includes a Texan and a Midwestern—places the Dems need to do well. Only possible down sides is there would be a “lack of diversity” on the ticket that could be a problem for some on the left.

I think being openly gay is pretty diverse. We don’t need diversity for the sake of diversity. Just put forth the best candidate.

I think Beto says all the right things and could be golden in the national spotlight.

I think Biden’s front runner support will fade. No front runner this far out has EVER won the nomination.

Alan

Are you suggesting that African-Americans and Latinos cannot be racists?

Maybe you’re right. They would also not be old—which I think is a plus. We need a new generation to lead. No more Boomers. They have proven themselves to be the most pathetic generation of leaders the US has ever seen.

I've been saying all along, Beto will the whole shebang win if he decides to run.

WTF^n wrote:

reverse double agent racists wrote:

Even the African-American and Latino Republicans who support Trump are racist?

You have gone batsh!t crazy.

Are you suggesting that African-Americans and Latinos cannot be racists?

Huh. Good point. No I wasn’t trying to say African Americans and Latin-x individuals can’t be racist. Clearly if they identify as republican and vote Republican—especially if they voted for Trump and continue to support him—then they are by definition textbook racists.

Fat hurts wrote:

Resigner Trump wrote:

Trump will resign. That is Pelosi's end game. Why would he resign, and not fight it out to the end? Money.

If a president resigns they get a full pension, plus all the perks that come with that – paid for office and expenses, paid for staff, paid for medical, paid for secret service protection.

If a president is impeach they would lose the above benefits.

I don't know of any provision that says a former president loses these benefits if removed from office. Can you cite a source for this?

One-term presidents don't get medical benefits, but Individual-1 wouldn't care about that or about the pension. The only thing he might care about is secret service protection for him and his family. I'm pretty sure he gets that for life no matter what.

Individual-1 will never resign. That's just a pipe dream.

Former Presidents Act—

(f) As used in this section, the term “former President” means a person--

(2) whose service in such office shall have terminated other than by removal pursuant to section 4 of article II of the Constitution of the United States of America

US Constitution, Article II , Section 4—

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.