Knothead veteran wrote:
Are you really surprised?
Wake up, this is LR and guys like dd are not going to agree with anything that you say and it shouldn't have surprised you.
Logic and reasoning don't work here. Get used to it or go somewhere else.
By the way, good points, seriously.
Lots of aliases today eh kip?
hahahahah wow wow wow
No you goofball. No clue who he or she is, but I am NOT Kip as it would make no sense for me to post what I have, giving the clueless (99% of you) clues on how to nail him. You guys who apparently post here a lot are very insecure and unbelievably stupid. Sure, I am suggesting sitting down with him with photographs and videos and if I were Kip, I would do that because why? How dumb are you guys, especially you dukerdog?
Dip Shitton, DDS wrote:
The only things missing are:
1) How did kip cheat?
Bike.
2) Kip's explanation for why he did it?
Because he is a Wuss.
Fill in the blanks. It is easy.
1) A bike and/or a trusted confidant.
2) Because he ran one and wanted to be faster AND wanted others to believe he was faster, which he wasn't. He wanted to be able to tell people that he was a great master runner, and again, he wasn't. Basic Psych 101.
Did this Ron Fonger guy even read the New Yorker article? And Does he know anything about distance running?
"DAVISON, MI -- Lingering questions about the long-distance running claims of a Davison dentist have landed him in the current issue of "The New Yorker."
In a 12-page story headlined "Marathon Man," writer Mark Singer digs into the impressive running claims of Kip Litton as well as evidence offered by others to discredit those achievements.
Other runners and race directors question Litton's accomplishments throughout the story, accusing him of wrongdoing but not answering how they believe he cheated."
Good post. Kip is no dummy. He says of course that he never did anything "deliberately" wrong. Of course that is false as the Boston photos prove and he knows it. Reasonable doubt and common sense trump everything he says and the photos prove it.
After Scotth allegedly got him to admit that he may have taken a wrong turn, he still didn't admit to purposely cheating.
No one goes off the course at the Crim and takes a wrong turn, sorry but it doesn't happen.
His only recourse is to claim that he may have taken a wrong turn.
The truth, he's no dummy and knows that he left the course, had runners in front of him and behind him to follow, and had no "legitimate" excuse/reason for leaving the course. I've run it many times right around his pace and faster and there are always runners in front of you or behind you.
Again, good post and thanks for the link.
Sorry twinkle toes, but no way is he Kip.
back to square one wrote:
No you goofball. No clue who he or she is, but I am NOT Kip as it would make no sense for me to post what I have, giving the clueless (99% of you) clues on how to nail him.
Well I'm relieved to hear it's not just me.
One thing that Mark Singer definitely got right was his "inanely combative" comment.
Carry on with your dribble.
dribble should be your first and last name. you make no sense and your last post was boarding on "freakiness". something is wrong with you dude, get a life and use common sense.
back to square one wrote:
Good post. Kip is no dummy. He says of course that he never did anything "deliberately" wrong. Of course that is false as the Boston photos prove and he knows it. Reasonable doubt and common sense trump everything he says and the photos prove it.
After Scotth allegedly got him to admit that he may have taken a wrong turn, he still didn't admit to purposely cheating.
No one goes off the course at the Crim and takes a wrong turn, sorry but it doesn't happen.
His only recourse is to claim that he may have taken a wrong turn.
The truth, he's no dummy and knows that he left the course, had runners in front of him and behind him to follow, and had no "legitimate" excuse/reason for leaving the course. I've run it many times right around his pace and faster and there are always runners in front of you or behind you.
Again, good post and thanks for the link.
one has to wonder what he's up to now that he's getting his a$$ handed to him with the recent New YORKER publication. Kudos to Mark Singer, the NewYorker, Kyle, Scott & the letsrun.com sleuths
dukerdog wrote:
back to square one wrote:
If he wasn't going to get any answers and he wasn't going to be able to videotape him, then I ask you, what's the point? A story of repeated information that is put into one does what? Use common sense dukerdog, in the end, what did the story do? Is it better than nothing, sure. Could it have been better, absolutely. He should have shown him the photos over halfway through and ask him to explain it. If he walks, so what? What has he given or admitted to? You can then truthfully say that when he was confronted with photographic evidence, he got up and walked and put that in the story. Wow, some of you guys who I thought had it together really aren't that bright.
Well then you should put your incredible investigative journalistic skills to the task of writing your own story. If you could do "a better job, guaranteed" then you definitely should. Stop complaining about what a crappy job Mark Singer did, and just show us how it's done. You make it sound pretty easy, so it shouldn't take much of your time. And you apparently live in SE Michigan, so what's stopping you from doing this?
It's not about someone else doing a better job. It's about Mark Singer doing HIS job better.
Take off your rose-colored glasses for a while and re-read the article. Can you really say that Singer did an adequate job? If so, then your standards seem to be far less than several others on this thread.
For prose, Singer gets an A. For content, a D+.
wow u guys will not let this go will u?
u know the olympics are on and there r drug cheats at the olympic level????
u know there r starving kids in africa?
Re-read his post goofy. He said that it's not a dis on him as a writer, but what he didn't ask. You have just repeated what he said goofy. Feel better now?
It pisses me off that no one knows how he did it and that he is still only an ALLEGED cheat
Wow, you just took the time to open up this thread with the Olympics going on and all that stuff, and then you even took the time to respond. Wow, you reek of stupidity. Stay off lets run and don't comment....A**H***!
No, YOU don't know how he did it. The photos tell everything. Look closely and you will find the answer. Think 2 wheels.
sliced apples wrote:
Wow, you just took the time to open up this thread with the Olympics going on and all that stuff, and then you even took the time to respond. Wow, you reek of stupidity. Stay off lets run and don't comment....A**H***!
Yes because I care about you. I want to see you people get the help you need.
Dip Shitton, DDS wrote:
It pisses me off that no one knows how he did it and that he is still only an ALLEGED cheat
The idiotic Flint Journal follow up article almost speaks of it like there's still some doubt as to whether or not Kip cheated. Just pathetic.
Look at the photo again. Kip cheated.