We like to have 1 thread per topic so we merged two threads together and kept the title of this thread. The other thread was entitled, "Assefa performance."
In the absence of providing your personal evidence, you're just making up nonsense, falsely stating that drugs make people run faster, but without having any personal evidence to support that false claim.
If you had personal evidence then your hysterical promotion of the drugs might be understandable - although still questionable, because I personally believe that to be false.
If you don't have any personal evidence, then your constant promotion of drugs must have some other motive, such as you (and astro) getting paid to promote them.
I don't have to provide personal evidence of doping because there are so many athletes in sport who dope - and have done so for decades. There is no question about that. Only the equivalent of a flat-earther refuses to see the role that it plays today in sport. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't boosting performances.
My last words in this case. Assefa is since her surprise win in Berlin last year in time 2:15 one of the most doping controlled of Wada and in their so called A-1 group for frequently tests. So,we can hardly say she is doped last year.What hyphotetically can be the case though she was jucing up hard the years 2019-2022 before her 2:15 win in Berlin when she was almost unknown. She won Gothenburg half with 1:08:20 In 2022 and only 5 sec before 2nd place runner. Then 4 months later she ran that 2:15. Who could see that come? This is by far one of the most strange developments in running history.
Performance spikes like that are typical of dopers.
You're promoting taking drugs and doping because you constantly allege that taking drugs help people to run faster than would be possible to run without them, yet you have likewise constantly failed to provide any personal evidence of that being true.
What were your marathon times before you took the drugs, what drugs did you take, and what were your marathon times after you took them?
Also what marathon training were you doing before and after you were taking the drugs.
You know nothing about the history of doping in the sport and its use today. The doping black market in drugs is over a billion dollars annually, yet fewer than 1% of tests return a positive. WADA has put T and F in the same category as weightlifting, bodybuilding and cycling for risk of drug abuse. It is in every running event, including the marathon - as we have seen with the stream of doping busts coming out of Kenya. Doping is everywhere, in all countries and in all sports. Identifying drug abuse - such as it is - is not promoting it.
So your answer is that you're falsely promoting the drugs without having any personal evidence that they help people to run any faster than they would without using the drugs.
That's what I thought, plus it's quite obvious that's what you've been doing.
And once again Armstronglivs takes over another thread as his personal "everybody is doping" soapbox. How about on future threads you just post once "my usual doping rant" and we all will know what you mean. I know you're grateful for me bringing more efficiency to your life. You're welcome.
And once again Armstronglivs takes over another thread as his personal "everybody is doping" soapbox. How about on future threads you just post once "my usual doping rant" and we all will know what you mean. I know you're grateful for me bringing more efficiency to your life. You're welcome.
How can I "take over a thread" when my posts are in response to comments from others like you? Clearly, the chorus opposing what I say isn't "taking over the thread" to you, since doping-denial is the approved line here even on threads that raise doping as an issue.
I don't have to provide personal evidence of doping
Right. Because you're making it all up. How convenient for you.
Almost every thread about running on this site raises the subject of doping. The trust in the sport has gone. It has gone because everything points to what it has become. WADA puts track and field in the same category as those doper carnivals of bodybuilding, weightlifting and cycling. And yet you think I am simply "making it all up".
In the absence of providing your personal evidence, you're just making up nonsense, falsely stating that drugs make people run faster, but without having any personal evidence to support that false claim.
If you had personal evidence then your hysterical promotion of the drugs might be understandable - although still questionable, because I personally believe that to be false.
If you don't have any personal evidence, then your constant promotion of drugs must have some other motive, such as you (and astro) getting paid to promote them.
I don't have to provide personal evidence of doping because there are so many athletes in sport who dope - and have done so for decades. There is no question about that. Only the equivalent of a flat-earther refuses to see the role that it plays today in sport. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't boosting performances.
Yes we know people take drugs. That doesn't mean that those drugs improve performance. It's a false narrative endorsed by those with a vested interest.
But you have a big chip on your shoulder which has become an obsession.
I don't have to provide personal evidence of doping because there are so many athletes in sport who dope - and have done so for decades. There is no question about that. Only the equivalent of a flat-earther refuses to see the role that it plays today in sport. It wouldn't exist if it wasn't boosting performances.
Yes we know people take drugs. That doesn't mean that those drugs improve performance. It's a false narrative endorsed by those with a vested interest.
But you have a big chip on your shoulder which has become an obsession.
The vested interest is with the athletes looking for gains. If they weren't getting them there would be no interest in doping and it wouldn't exist. Drugs are like any other product; if people don't get what they want from it they don't buy. You make it the only product on the free market that is sold in enormous quantities (over a billion dollars on the black market each year) but doesn't deliver results. The market doesn't work like that. What doesn't satisfy the customer disappears. No one wants it. But you have no understanding of any of this. You just want to believe doping doesn't work and your favourite athletes are clean. They won't be. They don't want to lose to those who also use drugs.
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