"I totally disagree with their estimate on time too. It will NOT be over 4:10, it’s going to be FAST. SO many women SO close in times, ANY of the top-9 women in the country right now can win that 1500m."
How many will be doubling up later in the meet? Might have some bearing on who goes out how hard.
"I totally disagree with their estimate on time too. It will NOT be over 4:10, it’s going to be FAST. SO many women SO close in times, ANY of the top-9 women in the country right now can win that 1500m."
How many will be doubling up later in the meet? Might have some bearing on who goes out how hard.
I think Plourde, Ramdsen and Maatoug are entered in the 5000 along with Tuohy. Barnett is the one to watch and see if she goes out hard as she in in her first 2 heats. None of the other 4:08 runners has shown any inclination to lead thus far, nor others such as Flockhart, Jepkirui, etc.
"I totally disagree with their estimate on time too. It will NOT be over 4:10, it’s going to be FAST. SO many women SO close in times, ANY of the top-9 women in the country right now can win that 1500m."
How many will be doubling up later in the meet? Might have some bearing on who goes out how hard.
I think Plourde, Ramdsen and Maatoug are entered in the 5000 along with Tuohy. Barnett is the one to watch and see if she goes out hard as she in in her first 2 heats. None of the other 4:08 runners has shown any inclination to lead thus far, nor others such as Flockhart, Jepkirui, etc.
Barnett goes out hard because she's also 'slow' 2:06 800pr. She's a threat still to win as she keeps getting stronger. 302/64 4:06 not fastest close, but still very much in the mix.
Plourde definitely taking real shot at 5000 and along w/ kt and Tyynismaa, a strong 5k closer. For Maatoug and Ramsden I view 5k as insurance. If they make 1500 final, you won't see much from them in 5000.
"I totally disagree with their estimate on time too. It will NOT be over 4:10, it’s going to be FAST. SO many women SO close in times, ANY of the top-9 women in the country right now can win that 1500m."
How many will be doubling up later in the meet? Might have some bearing on who goes out how hard.
I think Plourde, Ramdsen and Maatoug are entered in the 5000 along with Tuohy. Barnett is the one to watch and see if she goes out hard as she in in her first 2 heats. None of the other 4:08 runners has shown any inclination to lead thus far, nor others such as Flockhart, Jepkirui, etc.
Yeah, for the most part it appears all the ladies are hoping for a final 200 meter if not final 100 meter pounce opportunity. Except Tuohy. I still think Tuohy needs to relax her first lap as much as possible, easing into the race and then string it out from very, very early on (in the 1500m).
A 2 to 4 second lead at 3:03 to 3:05 at 1100m should ensure the victory. (Ladies, particularly in the West, showed they’re able to close FAST even with an 1100m split like that, so she HAS to be ahead of them).
If anyone is hanging on with her at 1100m and its slow? Oh boy, it’s anyone’s race.
Well, concerns about conditions coming in to the meet are just flying out the window now that the NCAA’s have started. In the men’s 1500m, throughout all of the qualifying rounds, only 5 men ran under 3:40.
Tonight? ELEVEN men just ran sub 3:40 with one ‘lil baby “q” AT 3:40.
At least in the 1500m, the conditions aren’t hampering any efforts.
It’s going to be FAST tomorrow and Saturday for the ladies.
Well, concerns about conditions coming in to the meet are just flying out the window now that the NCAA’s have started. In the men’s 1500m, throughout all of the qualifying rounds, only 5 men ran under 3:40.
Tonight? ELEVEN men just ran sub 3:40 with one ‘lil baby “q” AT 3:40.
At least in the 1500m, the conditions aren’t hampering any efforts.
It’s going to be FAST tomorrow and Saturday for the ladies.
Big difference 1500 vs 10000. Watch the M 10000 pace tonight and that will be the tell. It also will be a bit warmer I belive saturday
Well, concerns about conditions coming in to the meet are just flying out the window now that the NCAA’s have started. In the men’s 1500m, throughout all of the qualifying rounds, only 5 men ran under 3:40.
Tonight? ELEVEN men just ran sub 3:40 with one ‘lil baby “q” AT 3:40.
At least in the 1500m, the conditions aren’t hampering any efforts.
It’s going to be FAST tomorrow and Saturday for the ladies.
Not so fast they are in PB territory though, unlike the women at regionals
Regional races are tactical affairs and even the SBs could be vs a time that just got them qualified. Hicks has run 27:40 and Robinson has run 27:47. Patrick Kiprop has run 28:00 (ran 28:27 tonight). It will be tough to run a PR under these conditions.
Without checking I think the Stanford guys have run 27:40 , no?
Well, this year 4 guys have cracked the 28:00 barrier, (with the fastest being 27:57), so tonight’s group being not far off of that top time (when you consider 12 seconds over 6.2 miles), the conditions didn’t effect them THAT much in the overall times.
The point I was hoping to make is, they still ran fast, conditions be damned.
So, translating that to the Women’s 1500m tomorrow and Saturday, the times should be expected to be blazing fast with all those sub 4:09 women going after it. (I had mentioned above how fast the men’s 1500m was tonight considering the conditions).
The Women’s 5000m times on Saturday shouldn’t be affected by the conditions too awful much based on what we’ve seen tonight either.
Regional races are tactical affairs and even the SBs could be vs a time that just got them qualified. Hicks has run 27:40 and Robinson has run 27:47. Patrick Kiprop has run 28:00 (ran 28:27 tonight). It will be tough to run a PR under these conditions.
I don’t believe I’ve stated that any of the women will necessarily PR, I’ve just been stating they’re going to run fast, that the conditions aren’t affecting the athletes that awful much based on the men’s results.
