maybe they snuck out in a laundry bag and then babbled their mouths
maybe they snuck out in a laundry bag and then babbled their mouths
More like a trash bag.
Neither of you have it right with regard to Miranda. If a defendant's Miranda rights are violated, then the statements that they gave before being mirandized would be ruled inadmissible as would any evidence derived from those statements (with possible exceptions for evidence that would have been discovered independent of the statements given prior to being Mirandized - although Crim Pro was 20 years ago, so I'm a little rusty there).
At that point, the case would still be allowed to go forward if the prosecution still had enough other evidence to support the charges. It would not be summarily dismissed.
There would never be a mistrial as a result of a failure to Mirandize a defendant. Depending on the timing of appeals on rulings regarding admisssibility of evidence (whether those appeals would be fully processed before the criminal trial or contemporaneously therewith), there may be the possibility of a new trial of evidence that was allowed at trial was subsequently ruled to be inadmissible. Again, I'm a little rusty here, but I think the appeals on this issue would likely be resolved before trial.
The example of a theoretical dismissal I gave was for shoplifting. Throw away your textbooks from 20 years ago. With a crime like this, no statements will be thrown out.
The 5th amendment is the 5th Amendment. It provides the same protection regardless of the crime. I was talking about process, and that works is the way it works.
The idea that a case will get thrown out because of a Miranda violation is simply wrong. A Miranda violation will result in the evidence being surpressed. While that may result in insufficient evidence to continue prosecution, that is a different hung that a dismissal as a result of the Miranda violation itself.
If you don't appreciate that nuance, I suspect that you didn't go to a very good law school.
You both are missing the point. This *case* is now defunct. You can bet your ass that those 3 detectives (Ryan Hite, Tom Buckley & Brad Cecchetti) will most definitely be fired over their disregard for the law and cowboy way of handling business.
Man, I'm just talking about how constitutionally guaranteed rights are protected. I'm not focusing on the underlying facts of the case. Other posters were mangling how Miranda violations have historically been treated and I was trying to add some clarity.
Is there any truth to the rumour that mob boss James Galanti is the connection to Christine Niedermeier and the Target man? Both from Fairfield CT, both with ties to Ted Christopher, both sponsoured his racecar. Stocky man looking like Ted walks empty handed out of Alexandria and Blacksburg Target shortly before murder(s) a decade apart.
I am sure you have learned from your time post-law school: personal attacks are what one does when one has lost an argument on merits. Are we still debating about my shoplifting example? I made no statement about this murder case being dismissed due to Miranda violation. I stated no dismissal in this murder case.
There were no witnesses to the murder of Ron and Nicole (Ron Kirby and Nicole Lovell). Yet OJ and the real killers roam freely today. Why? Cops get tunnel vision and go for the easiest culprit to ensure less paperwork and more time @DunkinsDonut
And lovin it
Reddit and WikiLeaks both posted the 10.11.2017 search warrant, presented by Eisenhauer's attorneys during last week's Motion Hearing, releasing all ISP addresses from this specific LetsRun thread. Yet, no more than 2-3 ISP's have been from the same person since it began. I bet most came from Wilde Lake HS comp lab or Virginia Tech's Math Emporium lab >>
It was failed attempt to sniff out a leak from their own camp of 5 attorneys. Money talks to reporters, and vise versa
Search Warrant: ISP wrote:
Reddit and WikiLeaks both posted the 10.11.2017 search warrant, presented by Eisenhauer's attorneys during last week's Motion Hearing, releasing all ISP addresses from this specific LetsRun thread. Yet, no more than 2-3 ISP's have been from the same person since it began. I bet most came from Wilde Lake HS comp lab or Virginia Tech's Math Emporium lab >>
It was failed attempt to sniff out a leak from their own camp of 5 attorneys. Money talks to reporters, and vise versa
Can you link to the warrant? Thanks.
Bizarro world continues
(Websleuths: InTheDetails poster)
https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/new-river-valley/eisenhauer-murder-trial-continued
WSLS posted the entire Search Warrant by the attorneys at around the 01:00 mark in the video, at 12:52pm. Later that evening, WSLS omitted that portion of the video, and for whatever reason replaced it with the actual site on Craigs Creek Rd where the teen was discovered. >>
Can someone from LetsRun tell me how many view counts this thread got since Jan '16? Which month was the highest count? Lowest? What percentage came from 3-letter agencies just outside DC?
-Aaron Ward
Search Warrant: ISP wrote:
Reddit and WikiLeaks both posted the 10.11.2017 search warrant, presented by Eisenhauer's attorneys during last week's Motion Hearing, releasing all ISP addresses from this specific LetsRun thread. Yet, no more than 2-3 ISP's have been from the same person since it began. I bet most came from Wilde Lake HS comp lab or Virginia Tech's Math Emporium lab >>
It was failed attempt to sniff out a leak from their own camp of 5 attorneys. Money talks to reporters, and vise versa
Who is just making this stuff up? I feel like there is a person or multiple people who just post totally untrue stuff on here.
I'd like to see this document. I don't recall law enforcemenet EVER contacting us about this case. Prove it. Let me see the docs.
WSLS did show a clip from our search warrant in court. It was broadcasted here in Salem at noon but before the 8pm edition
If you hate AM that much, why do you and Keepers' attorney CONTINUALLY throw his bio into the loop of fire?
rojo wrote:
Who is just making this stuff up? I feel like there is a person or multiple people who just post totally untrue stuff on here.
I'd like to see this document. I don't recall law enforcemenet EVER contacting us about this case. Prove it. Let me see the docs.
This thread has been insane for quite a while now. Lots of random crap totally made up. I'm sure you could narrow the lies down to one or two culprits.
At least we are getting inside info into the inner workings of these high-profile case(s). Who cares which pipes the leaks originated.
I'd imagine at some point they will charge him with Perverting The Course Of Justice and stop the leaks once and for all, depending on how many copper pipes explode in the process.