It is only long distance to Ingebrigtsen, who is nowhere near the fastest in the event, Nancy. As for longer events, he simply isn't on the board. It is very unlikely he ever will be.
5000m is a long distance event it doesn't depend on who runs it: it's always and for anybody a long distance event.
up to 400m: sprint (400m: long)
800m - 1 Mile: middle distance (2000m: unclear)
3000m - 10000m: long distance
None of that turns Ingebrigtsen into a distance runner.
Great runners win championship titles and set records over championship distances.
So Farah not a great runner for you.
You can't follow a discussion. Farah has won enough championship titles to make him a great runner. Those in contention for being the very best usually break records as well as win championship titles. It is the only thing that qualifies what Farah achieved. There are however great runners who are still well ahead of Ingebrigtsen by either or both measures.
None of the arguments about what constitutes "distance" events makes Ingebrigtsen better or faster in any event he has raced. He remains significantly slower than the fastest 5k performances, with fewer global championship golds than the best in distance events, and he has done nothing in any event longer than 5k. There is no evidence that shows he can move to the longer events and succeed as he has in the shorter distances. It is only speculation that he will.
He already is one of the greatest in the 5000 when he has one Olympic gold, two Worlds golds and 3 European golds at the age of 24, plus faster PB than a runner like Farah. The only question is if he can become one of the greats in the 10k as well.
I don't think that's a likelihood. I very much doubt it will ever happen. He has showed no ability at the longer distances and he isn't really built to run them.
In the 5k I consider he is still behind Farah, who has more Olympic and WC golds than Ingebrigtsen. Since Farah also never made a wr attempt the small difference between their prs doesn't really count. What does count is that Ingebrigtsen in his own era is nowhere near the wr. I am sceptical he will get close to it let alone beat it. As I've said, his strength appears to be 2k-2miles.
So you don't think the difference between the PR of Farah and Jakob matters because Farah hasn't made a WR attempt, but it matters for Jakob and Cheptegei when Jakob hasn't made a WR attempt either?
None of that turns Ingebrigtsen into a distance runner.
He was and always will be a distance runner. You think he was a sprinter?
So far he excelled from 1500m to 5000m (and also beyond but not on world level).
1500m: middle distance, 5000m: long distance
We have to wait to see what he can do in the 10000m.
You never heard of middle distance runners? I wonder why he is routinely compared here with El G as well as Coe, Cram, Ovett, Aouita, Morceli, Ngeny and so on? He has done nothing at any distance longer than the great md runners ran.
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I don't think that's a likelihood. I very much doubt it will ever happen. He has showed no ability at the longer distances and he isn't really built to run them.
In the 5k I consider he is still behind Farah, who has more Olympic and WC golds than Ingebrigtsen. Since Farah also never made a wr attempt the small difference between their prs doesn't really count. What does count is that Ingebrigtsen in his own era is nowhere near the wr. I am sceptical he will get close to it let alone beat it. As I've said, his strength appears to be 2k-2miles.
So you don't think the difference between the PR of Farah and Jakob matters because Farah hasn't made a WR attempt, but it matters for Jakob and Cheptegei when Jakob hasn't made a WR attempt either?
Cheptegei has run times that Ingebrigtsen hasn't got near. Farah didn't run for times but creams Ingebrigtsen when it comes to championship golds. You are unable to grasp that in two different but relevant measures Ingebrigtsen remains outclassed as a distance runner.
So you don't think the difference between the PR of Farah and Jakob matters because Farah hasn't made a WR attempt, but it matters for Jakob and Cheptegei when Jakob hasn't made a WR attempt either?
Cheptegei has run times that Ingebrigtsen hasn't got near. Farah didn't run for times but creams Ingebrigtsen when it comes to championship golds. You are unable to grasp that in two different but relevant measures Ingebrigtsen remains outclassed as a distance runner.
Jakob hasn't run for times either so why do you think that comparison between Cheptegei and Jakob is relevant if it isn't relevant for Jakob and Farah, despite both of them not having run for times and Jakob still being faster than Farah?
He was and always will be a distance runner. You think he was a sprinter?
So far he excelled from 1500m to 5000m (and also beyond but not on world level).
1500m: middle distance, 5000m: long distance
We have to wait to see what he can do in the 10000m.
You never heard of middle distance runners? I wonder why he is routinely compared here with El G as well as Coe, Cram, Ovett, Aouita, Morceli, Ngeny and so on? He has done nothing at any distance longer than the great md runners ran.
Which set of results is better, an Olympic gold, two Worlds silvers and no world records in middle distance or a world record, an Olympic gold and two Worlds golds in long distance? Why is he a middle distance runner and not a long distance runner when he's having much more success in long distance?
You never heard of middle distance runners? I wonder why he is routinely compared here with El G as well as Coe, Cram, Ovett, Aouita, Morceli, Ngeny and so on? He has done nothing at any distance longer than the great md runners ran.
Which set of results is better, an Olympic gold, two Worlds silvers and no world records in middle distance or a world record, an Olympic gold and two Worlds golds in long distance? Why is he a middle distance runner and not a long distance runner when he's having much more success in long distance?
Cheptegei has run times that Ingebrigtsen hasn't got near. Farah didn't run for times but creams Ingebrigtsen when it comes to championship golds. You are unable to grasp that in two different but relevant measures Ingebrigtsen remains outclassed as a distance runner.
Jakob hasn't run for times either so why do you think that comparison between Cheptegei and Jakob is relevant if it isn't relevant for Jakob and Farah, despite both of them not having run for times and Jakob still being faster than Farah?
There are different measures for a judgement of merit that include championship titles and world records. Ingebrigtsen is exceeded in both by two different runners (and others), by Farah (championship titles) and Cheptegei (world records). The reason I use those two measures as that each of those runners excelled at them in a way Ingebrigtsen has yet to do. That you say Ingebrigtsen "hasn't run for times" brings him no closer to what Cheptegei has achieved, and however much he wants championship titles he is still nowhere near Farah. In my view, they remain ahead of him from 5k up. But so of course does Bekele.
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