We like to have 1 thread per topic so we merged two threads together and kept the title of this thread. The other thread was entitled, "Assefa performance."
Since it's highly likely the men's records are doped this absolutely puts her record in doping territory for a woman.
The other assumption made here is that there must be a constant and significant rate of progress, and this in a sport that depends essentially on physical capacity and not technique or dramatic changes in equipment (such as we have seen in motor racing with higher powered cars, and golf and tennis with higher powered clubs and racquets). The comparison I have made previously is with another sport involving running, and that is horse-racing where times have not improved in half a century. Since there only a few factors that will result in faster times overall in running the inference must be there is something at play which is significantly changing the physical capacity of athletes. That is doping.
There is no reason to assume that women's marathon times must improve because they came relatively late to the sport, unless it is being argued the early competitors were inherently inferior athletes. There isn't anything that suggests that. If we look at other events we see that women competitors were from the earliest much the same distance from male competition as they are today. If that gap is being closed in a sport like marathon running it raises the question of how is this possible.
So many words to repeat what you say every day. Funny how you choose to waste your life.
It isn't wasted because you and others here read them. Your annoyance makes that perfectly clear. Antidoping are doing the same thing, too, everyday, trying to catch the dopers. I suppose they are also wasting their lives.
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Instead of Sonia O'Sullivan's estimation on what she believes to be the new standard for greatness in the sport, I would rather hear what Elizabeth Lynch McColgan thinks. Remember, she was the one who refused to compete against the cheating (Ma's Army) Chinese when things got so ridiculous in the early 90's. To quote Bob Dylan "steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king".
So many words to repeat what you say every day. Funny how you choose to waste your life.
It isn't wasted because you and others here read them. Your annoyance makes that perfectly clear. Antidoping are doing the same thing, too, everyday, trying to catch the dopers. I suppose they are also wasting their lives.
Antidoping authorities do something, you repeat the same things 365 days a year, and your words don't make anything better.
Instead of Sonia O'Sullivan's estimation on what she believes to be the new standard for greatness in the sport, I would rather hear what Elizabeth Lynch McColgan thinks.
Both of them are long term ignorant racist bigots, the same as Radcliffe and many of the posters on this forum.
It isn't wasted because you and others here read them. Your annoyance makes that perfectly clear. Antidoping are doing the same thing, too, everyday, trying to catch the dopers. I suppose they are also wasting their lives.
Antidoping authorities do something, you repeat the same things 365 days a year, and your words don't make anything better.
They aren't intended to make anything better, just to counter the nonsense spouted by fans who deny the reality about the sport.
You're promoting taking drugs and doping because you constantly allege that taking drugs help people to run faster than would be possible to run without them, yet you have likewise constantly failed to provide any personal evidence of that being true.
What were your marathon times before you took the drugs, what drugs did you take, and what were your marathon times after you took them?
Also what marathon training were you doing before and after you were taking the drugs.
In the absence of providing your personal evidence, you're just making up nonsense, falsely stating that drugs make people run faster, but without having any personal evidence to support that false claim.
If you had personal evidence then your hysterical promotion of the drugs might be understandable - although still questionable, because I personally believe that to be false.
If you don't have any personal evidence, then your constant promotion of drugs must have some other motive, such as you (and astro) getting paid to promote them.
My last words in this case. Assefa is since her surprise win in Berlin last year in time 2:15 one of the most doping controlled of Wada and in their so called A-1 group for frequently tests. So,we can hardly say she is doped last year.What hyphotetically can be the case though she was jucing up hard the years 2019-2022 before her 2:15 win in Berlin when she was almost unknown. She won Gothenburg half with 1:08:20 In 2022 and only 5 sec before 2nd place runner. Then 4 months later she ran that 2:15. Who could see that come? This is by far one of the most strange developments in running history.
You're promoting taking drugs and doping because you constantly allege that taking drugs help people to run faster than would be possible to run without them, yet you have likewise constantly failed to provide any personal evidence of that being true.
What were your marathon times before you took the drugs, what drugs did you take, and what were your marathon times after you took them?
Also what marathon training were you doing before and after you were taking the drugs.
You know nothing about the history of doping in the sport and its use today. The doping black market in drugs is over a billion dollars annually, yet fewer than 1% of tests return a positive. WADA has put T and F in the same category as weightlifting, bodybuilding and cycling for risk of drug abuse. It is in every running event, including the marathon - as we have seen with the stream of doping busts coming out of Kenya. Doping is everywhere, in all countries and in all sports. Identifying drug abuse - such as it is - is not promoting it.
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