It really is bizarre how these people refuse to read the Indictment, but run around reading headlines about the Indictment and citing and posting ones they think attack the Indictment. Just weirdo child-like behavior.
Dershowitz is a lifelong Democrat who voted for Biden. He's also a legal scholar and expert in constitutional law.
His opinion matters. Yours does not.
Nope. In the grand scheme of things, Dersh's opinion doesn't matter any more than mine. And in your world, my opinion is more important than Dersh's or you wouldn't be in here "arguing." That's just the way it is.
And there are dozens of "legal scholars and experts in Constitutional law" who say the 42 page factually supported Indictment holds up just fine. Dersh's opinion doesn't matter any more or less than those opinions.
Dersh's opinions were discussed pages ago. If you ever get around to actually reading the Indictment that YOU are so obviously concerned about, you may see that Dersh's opinions are pretty trite and conclusory. He didn't put much thought into it. He rarely does anymore. The First Amendment defense he's discussing is OBVIOUSLY wrong and just being recited for the uninformed audience to get excited about. It won't be around next month as a topic of discussion.
Apparently it's very hard for you. You're blinded into thinking this indictment which reads like it was written by Democrat intern has any hope of winning on appeal.
Fresh of getting owned in the climate thread, now here to give you his expert legal opinion ... ladies and gentlemen, give it up for AdultInTheRoom!!!
Yes. but only when he agrees with you. If Dersh says something bad about Trump you will toss him aside too.
Read the indictment and stop seeking out opinions of others. Grow up. This isn't hard.
It really is bizarre how these people refuse to read the Indictment, but run around reading headlines about the Indictment and citing and posting ones they think attack the Indictment. Just weirdo child-like behavior.
From X "By now someone has explained the J6 indictment to him. They’ve explained he cannot claim any forms of privilege. None apply. He cannot fight it on constitutional grounds, such as 1A, because he isn’t being indicted for his speech. He cannot argue the validity of the laws he has broken. They are clear and have been successfully applied to numerous cases. He is being indicted for his deceitful actions. Actions that will be attested to by his lawyers and inner circle. His own people. This is an indictment purposefully built for clarity and speed. It terrifies him. As it should."
It really is bizarre how these people refuse to read the Indictment, but run around reading headlines about the Indictment and citing and posting ones they think attack the Indictment. Just weirdo child-like behavior.
I think it's really bizarre that the lefties are so excited by an indictment none of them have read.
I haven't seen that. I've read it, and it looks like a lot of people in this thread have read it. You, on the other hand, have not read it.
The entire indictment is based on the false claim that Trump is lying about not believing the 2020 elections results.
No. No, it is not. If you ever read it, you will see and understand that the Indictment is not based on a claim that Trump is lying about not believing the 2020 election results. He obviously is lying about that, and the Indictment does a good job of showing that he is lying about that, but the Indictment is NOT premised on that and the specific crimes charged are not premised on his beliefs on the 2020 election results.
Whether you know it or not, or whether you can understand it or not, you are promoting a position that would basically immunize any criminal defendant from any crime they commit if they just say they truly believe someone else had wronged them. The law does not work in such an idiotic way.
A majority of Republicans felt the election was stolen prior to January 6th. Even AFTER January 6th MILLIONS of Americans including 13% of Democrats agreed the election was stolen from Trump.
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives pic.twitter.com/QTyw99l8sc
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives
Part of Trump's defense will likely be that the Eastman Memos are reasonable legal opinions and the Vice President has the power and authority to declare the winner of the election. In which case, you have to imagine that if Biden/Harris find themselves losing to Trump/Lake, they will certainly consider having Kamala Harris just declare Biden the winner. Who on the Trump side could complain?
Pence: Let’s be clear on this point. It wasn't that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the house of representatives
Part of Trump's defense will likely be that the Eastman Memos are reasonable legal opinions and the Vice President has the power and authority to declare the winner of the election. In which case, you have to imagine that if Biden/Harris find themselves losing to Trump/Lake, they will certainly consider having Kamala Harris just declare Biden the winner. Who on the Trump side could complain?
This is just one instance of how the GQP has backed themselves into a corner, with no way to win. ....unless of course they plan on dissolving all government, which seems to be what DJT was planning.
I remember a loooong time ago when trump was indicted and impeached because of all the collusion with russia. I was pretty excited about it because I wanted him gone.
It all turned out to be a ruse, apparently. It profoundly demonstrated the degree in which people should be trusted, especially in regards to politics.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
Donald Trump was not impeached for anything connected with his campaign's collusion with Russian individuals.
And he was certainly not indicted "a loooong time ago" for it. All the indictments for alleged crimes committed during and after his presidency are fairly recent.
If you are a Trump supporter, please don't read my post. You are not prepared for it. (My last post on this subject was deleted even though it had no malice.)
The disconnect for Trump supporters, their degree of cognitive dissonance, has never been greater for Trump supporters than it is right now. Trump's attorneys have push the freedom of speech defense. His supporters have embraced this idea. To accept this they need to ignore all the evidence of illegal behavior including trying to pass illegal electors as legal electors, and trying to get so many people (including pence) to break laws. Now that might seem hard to do, but for Trump supporters its not hard to ignore these salient facts at all.
But here's the hard part, the conundrum for them. To accept the freedom of speech defense (what I call the Trump is not criminal but just a big fat liar defense) is a huge problem for them. They have been believing and defending Trumps big lie about winning the election for a couple years and now they have to accept it as a lie. Not easy.
The fact that Trump's support is stronger right now is to be expected. Anyone whose basic belief system is attacked always musters a strong protective posture. Its a normal response.
Either Trump is a liar that perpetuated the biggest lie in our recent history that ruined thousands of lives.
Or he is the biggest Buffoon in history that can’t grasp or comprehend that he lost after having it explained hundreds of times by experts, his staff and even the two companies he paid to investigate.
is there ever a point of self reflection that causes Trumpers to think maybe Trump isn’t worth your allegiance?