Exactly. And notice 'fickle' didn't even try to answer the question lol. They know they can't without being circular or just saying some extremely obviously sexist thing
How is it circular?
It's a simple If, then statement:
If a person says "I am a woman," then she is a woman.
/end
If I were to subject myself to a partial lobotomy and boldly proclaim "I am Lenny Leonard", would you believe that I was you?
Like many things, a sporting category is an objective fact. Were it not so objective distinctions of weight and age, for example, would be irrelevant; the categories of sport and eligibility to compete in them would be whatever anyone takes them to mean. They would effectively become meaningless. If the definition of something - like gender identity - is only what a person "feels" it is and nothing else it is then completely subjective. No sporting category - nor many other classification, like nationality or even what we identify as different species - would have any basis in objective fact. Such categorisations would lose all meaning in any objective way.
The debate about transgender participation in women's sport seeks to assert the primacy of a subjective experience into what must be objective or it simply couldn't work. The subjective experience can only be reconciled to the objective if it confirms to objective criteria. If it doesn't, it cannot be applied without rendering the whole game absurd.
if I’m a high schooler and I say “I feel like a boy, so I am a boy” I cannot except it.
first, obviously from a biological perspective it is simply false, however there is also a mental factor.
A woman does not know what it’s like to be a man. Men grow up in like acting like men, being treated like men, etc. The societal role of men is not experienced by women.
so to say “I feel like a man” when you haven’t gone through any of the experiences of being a man is just not accurate
if I’m a high schooler and I say “I feel like a boy, so I am a boy” I cannot except it.
first, obviously from a biological perspective it is simply false, however there is also a mental factor.
A woman does not know what it’s like to be a man. Men grow up in like acting like men, being treated like men, etc. The societal role of men is not experienced by women.
so to say “I feel like a man” when you haven’t gone through any of the experiences of being a man is just not accurate
This. Having a typical male personality, even having the feeling that you should have a male body, does not make you one. Vice versa for females.
A video of atrocious form, especially when compared to the other athletes. If we know that form is critical in shot put, but, this athlete has some of the worst form I have seen in a state performance, yet still placed second.... What can we attribute this 2nd place finish to?
A video of atrocious form, especially when compared to the other athletes. If we know that form is critical in shot put, but, this athlete has some of the worst form I have seen in a state performance, yet still placed second.... What can we attribute this 2nd place finish to?
That’s a rather complicated thought to have to explain for “I’ll just leave this here..”.
if I’m a high schooler and I say “I feel like a boy, so I am a boy” I cannot except it.
first, obviously from a biological perspective..
Ok sweetie, it doesn’t matter if you don’t except it or accept it, but you can expect to be stuck with a small fraction of such people around you and be legally powerless to do anything about how they choose to live their lives.
They don’t care about your biological perspective coz they are living their own biology and that’s already a handful.
It's just like Barrett. Abysmal form but being biologically male allows them to run ok male times that are elite female times. In this case, this person's male strength allowed them to throw the shot-put far with abysmal form.
Wow I did not know any of this from the past season. My daughter is a thrower and is in 8th grade. My daughter also practices/competes with Hannah who works year round and this is terrible. They never mentioned any of this. Probably in fear of being blackballed.
if I’m a high schooler and I say “I feel like a boy, so I am a boy” I cannot except it.
first, obviously from a biological perspective it is simply false, however there is also a mental factor.
A woman does not know what it’s like to be a man. Men grow up in like acting like men, being treated like men, etc. The societal role of men is not experienced by women.
so to say “I feel like a man” when you haven’t gone through any of the experiences of being a man is just not accurate
This. Having a typical male personality, even having the feeling that you should have a male body, does not make you one. Vice versa for females.
Exactly. This is the fallacy of the whole thing. Men and women can see one another, hear one another, etc etc and make observations about what it seems to be like to be the other sex/gender. They can notice patterns, they can notice averages of behavior and so forth, they can make reasonably educated guesses about what it's like, and they can listen to the other sex/gender when they say what it's like. But they can't actually experience it. Whatever is felt by one who says "I feel like a woman" does not necessarily match up with the actual experience of a woman. Same the other way for feeling like a man vs being a man.
