If you are going to cast aspersions, tool bag, at least find a picture of Katelyn where she looks, in your words, "big." She looks relatively lean in that picture..
I write about doping all the time. Someone suddenly runs a crazy rated time, has an anomalous progression, shows certain odd but predictable performance patterns, has other red flags, it is going to be evaluated. Deflect and flak all you want.
Your premise is that since Tuohy was the fastest 7th grader in USA history, anyone who EVER beats Tuohy has by definition had an "anomalous progression" and thus deserves to be smeared as a doper.
In your mind there is no possibility that a more talented runner exists. Since Tuohy was faster as a 12 year old anyone that surpasses Tuohy must be a doper.
Tell you what. All other red flags aside, if Tuohy suddenly (apparently) pops off a time indicative of a clear doping progression, feel free to express skepticism. They can't all be "generational talents" and magic gene "late bloomers" like Shelby was. Until she wasn't and went down the memory hole.
Nope. Just do it without showing obvious doping red flags. Don't seem to recall questioning Wayment or Roe when they won because no red flags were present. Here they seem very obvious and all of this sounds tediously familiar.
ignore the desperate tuohy hate trolls. they never stop. they bring her into any thread and put her down. there are other runners in the ncaa you know
her progression back from surgery (more than a year) was pretty normal, well documented steady improvement, with ups and downs. her coach has interviewed about it, how they brought her back. sh$t posts like this are just trying to deflect
I write about doping all the time. Someone suddenly runs a crazy rated time, has an anomalous progression, shows certain odd but predictable performance patterns, has other red flags, it is going to be evaluated. Deflect and flak all you want.
Your premise is that since Tuohy was the fastest 7th grader in USA history, anyone who EVER beats Tuohy has by definition had an "anomalous progression" and thus deserves to be smeared as a doper.
In your mind there is no possibility that a more talented runner exists. Since Tuohy was faster as a 12 year old anyone that surpasses Tuohy must be a doper.
If you can point to one single red flag with Tuohy, let us know. Ever think maybe that is why she has a fan club in a dope-infested sport? Because in a sport rife with cheating and illusion and lies people know something is actually real? And because she has the progression with the normal ebbs and flows of a naturally talented athlete, it becomes a benchmark to compare against more anomalous progressions, such as the supposed late-bloomerism that is often used to explain sudden pro progressions.
I’m not accusing Tuohy of doping, just pointing out the ridiculous double standard. You and the other obsessed cultists in this thread can’t see it because none of you are even remotely objective.
Your premise is that since Tuohy was the fastest 7th grader in USA history, anyone who EVER beats Tuohy has by definition had an "anomalous progression" and thus deserves to be smeared as a doper.
In your mind there is no possibility that a more talented runner exists. Since Tuohy was faster as a 12 year old anyone that surpasses Tuohy must be a doper.
Eggzactly. The guy is full of it.
seems to me a lot of people have beaten tuohy. i can't remember anyone EVER accusing chelangat, roe, wayment, chmiel, or the 14 women who beat her in the NCAA xc finals last year of doping. you are the one that is obsessed with tuohy, admit it. it is unhealthy.
Well objective would include broaching the doping topic when someone runs a very suspect rated time and exhibits odd but strangely predictable patterns and progressions in development while running for a coach directly tied to the BTC doping chain where the progression mimicks the standard BTC pro progression to an eerie degree. That is what I mean by red flags.
seems to me a lot of people have beaten tuohy. i can't remember anyone EVER accusing chelangat, roe, wayment, chmiel, or the 14 women who beat her in the NCAA xc finals last year of doping. you are the one that is obsessed with tuohy, admit it. it is unhealthy.
Talk about a weird misconstrue. It was the toohy’s that started throwing shade at Valby here in the first place. Everyone of their so-called circumstantial red-flags have been countered, yet they ignore it and still throw baseless accusations at Valby. Why is that? It’s obvious to me why.
Talk about a weird misconstrue. It was the toohy’s that started throwing shade at Valby here in the first place. Everyone of their so-called circumstantial red-flags have been countered, yet they ignore it and still throw baseless accusations at Valby. Why is that? It’s obvious to me why.
It’s their current trajectories. I can see it, they can see it, and it terrifies and angers them. So they blither and blather their accusations over-and-over in order to try and bully and disparage the reputation of a rising star athlete. Simple.
seems to me a lot of people have beaten tuohy. i can't remember anyone EVER accusing chelangat, roe, wayment, chmiel, or the 14 women who beat her in the NCAA xc finals last year of doping. you are the one that is obsessed with tuohy, admit it. it is unhealthy.
In 2019 Valby ran 10:10 for 3200 while Chmiel only ran 10:15. Roe only ran 10:18 in 2019.
So Valby was literally faster than those runners in 2019, so how could her progression be "anomalous"???
You do realize this is exactly the type of drivel we would see on the Houlihan threads, that she was this magical late bloomer, that her progression was natural, that she was "undertrained", that her late=bloomerism allowed her to have higher plateaus, that fans of other runners were jealous, etc? Even you don't buy that. Far more likely her supposed, sudden "generational" talent is synthetic.
