Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
You’re a talking point. It would be kind of a dumb idea to buy votes by giving a tax cut to the “super rich” since there aren’t that many? Don’t you think brah?
Super pacs. Dark money. Influence peddling. You should check it out brah.
You’re a talking point wrapped around conspiracy theories. The worst kind of uneducated
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
Too funny. I live in Florida where I don’t pay state or local income tax and my property taxes are relatively low. And I guarantee the services I get are equal or better. But keep voting blue dude.
You we’re double taxed already when the sales tax deduction was eliminated. Probably lots of other examples of that as well.
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
Stop voting for people who support high taxation and you wouldn't have that problem.
Not being able to deduct your taxes is NOT "double taxation"... lol...
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
Why are all liberals so pro-taxation until it's their own money involved?
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
Why are all liberals so pro-taxation until it's their own money involved?
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
Why are all liberals so pro-taxation until it's their own money involved?
That guy is weird. I happily pay what I owe. In the future when I owe a ton more than I do now, I will consider it an achievement.
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
I don’t ever recall saying I thought double taxation was something I was opposed to. Eliminating double taxation is a big hill to climb when you think of all the ones you pay…virtually impossible. What you should be questioning isn’t why Trump tax cuts reduced that deduction but why your local taxes are so high. Especially since for every dollar of those taxes you’re paying you only reduce your federal tax bill a fraction of that. I was right about your needing to think a little.
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
Too funny. I live in Florida where I don’t pay state or local income tax and my property taxes are relatively low. And I guarantee the services I get are equal or better.
Your education system sucks and it’s getting worse. You’re the type to be crying loudest for federal aid with a hurricane hits.
Too funny. I live in Florida where I don’t pay state or local income tax and my property taxes are relatively low. And I guarantee the services I get are equal or better.
Your education system sucks and it’s getting worse. You’re the type to be crying loudest for federal aid with a hurricane hits.
Our school systems were mostly open during the pandemic. So our students were in school and learning not at home and falling behind. Florida runs their own hurricane insurance fund but I have a concrete house with hurricane windows and doors. Being prepared to withstand a disaster is a better and cheaper idea than fixing up after one. A Category 4 hurricane passed 30 miles from my house and I only lost 50 shingles and some branches
Florida is well run especially compared to blue states. You can tell cause lots of my neighbors have relocated from NY, NJ, PA, etc. Not too many people moving the other way.
No it’s about keeping a campaign promise that a majority of people support. I’m good with doing good.
Btw- every politician does this. Grow up buddy. if it was trump, you’d be jerking your off to this news
Polls show the majority of Americans don’t support this. Get out of your bubble!
Trump was in office 4 years and never proposed this. So if I don’t favor this…that’s at least one reason for me to like Trump. I’m totally consistent is your point?
I wonder if consideration was given to what this means going forward? Realistically this should be the end of the student loan program going forward? Why would anyone now pay their student loans? plus what message does this send to people about paying any debt off? And even Dims have previously said the President can’t legally do this so what message does that send! I don’t picture you as a deep thinker so I doubt you even thought about any of this.
Only 42% of Americans have college degrees. The other 58% are not getting anything out of this except the bill.
Well, many of the people with student loan debt don't finish their degrees, An even larger number are people who went to vocational schools or beauty/barber schools.
Student loans are essentially predatory lending.
As with all things the Democrats are trying to fix a legitimate problem by throwing money at a symptom of the problem and making the actual problem worse in the long run.
All this shameless vote buying attempt will accomplish is causing tuition rates to rise even further.
Yeah? So how come my tax bill increased by $5000? I’ll tell you why. I live in one those blue states Trump had to punish by eliminating the SALT deduction (resulting in double taxation BTW, something y’all purportedly oppose on principle) for having the temerity to vote against him.
I don’t ever recall saying I thought double taxation was something I was opposed to. Eliminating double taxation is a big hill to climb when you think of all the ones you pay…virtually impossible. What you should be questioning isn’t why Trump tax cuts reduced that deduction but why your local taxes are so high. Especially since for every dollar of those taxes you’re paying you only reduce your federal tax bill a fraction of that. I was right about your needing to think a little.
A little bit? You’re an imbecile. My deductions were cut in half by the cap on the SALT deduction, from >$80K to $40K.
Loan forgiveness is very much a Democratic position to hold, so you are clearly a non-Democrat trolling here. Loan indebtedness is at a staggering level, and is an enormous problem both individually and collectively, the kind of thing that crashes people's futures and can even crash the economy, given just how big it is. College has become too expensive and should instead (public college) be heavily subsidized, as in Europe, because it is fundamental to our economy and to the success of individuals--even longevity. Free public college should be next. You think this harms those who paid their loans. I paid my loans and I don't object to this program in any way. It helps everyone by aiding the economy. Frankly, the level of debt only served the interests of banks and credit card companies. Try raising a family when college debt takes up much of your salary.
I don't want to wade through 20 pages of this thread, so I'll respond to a post I agree with, in part. The European way is better. University is cheap for those who go, but there is also not the same pressure to send all kids to University, as most countries think they also need blue collar workers like electricians and plumbers, and perform aptitude tests to guide students to make a better choice.
I think debt relief is just pulling the weeds, but not killing the roots. Maybe it's OK to temporarily relieve some of the current pressure but we need some serious reform or reversion to the way universities used to be funded, e.g. subsidized by state taxes, and a return to reasonable fees, and elimination of draconian legislation that treats student loan debt differently than credit card debt, or home and car loans.
Granted it was some time ago, but in the '80s, my 4-year University degree at a well known (often mistaken for Ivy League, but it is not) state-subsidized Engineering University cost me about $20K in total over 4-years, including dorm and meals. When I looked at universities for my son, estimated costs to go to UC Davis (a UC California state school, but not UCLA or Berkeley) were $65K per year, or more than $250K over 4-years. This is about what I borrowed for my first house, which I paid back with a 15-year loan. I cannot imagine borrowing the equivalent of two house loans, to be paid back over 30-years, to send my two kids to college, or burdening my kids with such an enormous debt as they are starting their adult life.
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